AI Governance Podcast

This episode of the AI Governance Podcast features Sunil Gregory and Dr. Anindya Sircar. Sunil is at Cognizant, where he works with Fortune 500 enterprises on AI governance strategy and operating-model design. Anindya is the IPR Chair at NALSAR University of Law in Hyderabad, having previously run intellectual property at Biocon and Infosys. Together they are co-authors of the AI Governance Handbook (Springer, 2025) and are working on a follow-up that argues regulators are over-engineering the response to AI.
Sunil and Anindya joined Enzai's Matt McCallum to discuss:
The Structural Fix for Shadow AI: Sunil's three-layer model - consolidation, structured funded portfolio, and governance built into the development lifecycle - for CIOs whose AI budgets have already exhausted on pilots that haven't graduated.
The IP Inventory Test: Anindya's "smoke detector in a building without a sprinkler system" framing for enterprise IP exposure programs - and the connected inventory question every governance team should be able to answer.
Industrialised Inconsistency in Data: Why AI breaks what analytics didn't - when the human silently fixing the data is removed from the loop, every ambiguity surfaces as a wrong answer, a hallucination, or a critical legal exposure.
India's Deliberate Choice: Why Western enterprise leaders most often misread India's DPDP Act as underdeveloped - and what they miss when they treat the principle-based framework as a strategic asset rather than a gap.
Doctrine Over New Statute: A preview of Sunil and Anindya's follow-up book - and the case for extending existing legal doctrines (IP, privacy, accountability, sovereignty, human dignity) rather than inventing new AI-specific frameworks.

This episode of the AI Governance Podcast features Dr. Carl Öhman. Carl is an Associate Senior Lecturer at Uppsala University and the author of the 2024 book, The Afterlife of Data. He is one of the world's leading experts on the "digital afterlife industry" and the ethics of our informational remains.
Carl joined Enzai's Matt McCallum to discuss:
The "Informational Body": Why we need to treat our digital footprint as a persistent extension of ourselves that outlasts our physical lives.
The Regulatory Gap: Why rights under frameworks like the GDPR "cease" at the moment of death, and the governance vacuum this creates for digital remains.
Narrative Capture: The dangerous situation where a single individual or tech giant can own the entire historical narrative of movements like #MeToo through the purchase of platform data.
Digital Colonialism: The economic incentives that could lead to the preservation of Western history while the digital records of the Global South are erased to save server space.
Gods of Data: A preview of Carl's upcoming work on how LLMs collapse our collective ancestors into a singular "divine" presence, and the risks of outsourcing human decision-making to "perfect" machines.
 
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This episode of the AI Governance Podcast features Bojana Bellamy. Bojana is the President of the Center for Information Policy Leadership (CIPL), a preeminent global think tank, and has spent over 25 years at the center of global data policy.
 

Bojana joined Enzai's Matt McCallum to discuss:
The critical shift from "tick-box" compliance to organizational accountability as a business enabler.

How boards should evaluate the "loss of opportunity" in AI deployment rather than just the risk of fines.

The challenges of governing Agentic AI and moving toward delegated trust models.

Reconciling the tension between data protection principles and the massive data requirements of representative AI models.

The role of Privacy-Preserving Technologies (PPTs) in maintaining global data flows and building digital bridges.

This episode of the AI Governance Podcast features Sophie in 't Veld.
Sophie is a defining figure in European digital rights, having served for 20 years as a Member of the European Parliament. She currently chairs the advisory council for the Centre for Democracy and Technology (CDT) in Europe.
Sophie joined Enzai's Matt McCallum to discuss:
• The transition from legislation to enforcement for the EU AI Act
• Critical lessons from the GDPR and why enforcement has become a "political currency"
• The dangers of the "National Security" exemption and its role in the proliferation of spyware
• Challenges of Agentic AI and why the principle of human review must remain technology-neutral

This episode of the AI Governance Podcast features Boniface de Champris. Boniface is an expert on the EU AI Act, Senior Manager at CCIA Europe and a keen watcher of the debate around the GPAI Code of Practice.
Boniface joined Enzai's Var Shankar to discuss:
Why the forthcoming GPAI Code of Practice is so important
How the EU AI Office interacts with Working Groups to draft the Code
Major changes between the second and third drafts of the Code
Expectations for the final draft of the Code
How work by researchers, including at the OECD and G7, informs AI laws