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  • S3 Ep5 Dating with Joe Berger
    Welcome to Elevator Systems! Therapist Joe Berger joins Dixie Vandersluys and Katie White to think about how Bowen family systems theory is useful in the dating world. Joe Berger is a therapist who works with individuals, couples, and families and previously worked for several years in community mental health. He received a Masters in Social Work from the University of Vermont in 2012, and has completed two years of postgraduate training at the Bowen Center in Washington. He is currently a faculty member at the Vermont Center for Family Studies.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:A Bowen theory approach to dating emphasizes focusing on oneself rather than the other personBeing clear about one's goals and guidelines in dating helps maintain authenticity and self-awarenessThe influence of societal and familial expectations on dating behaviours and relationship choicesKeeping a sense of fun and curiosity is important in the dating process, alongside serious considerationsExamples shared from personal experience, clinical cases, and the entertainment worldCounsellors, parents, and anyone navigating the dating world will find useful ideas for further thinking in this episode.Recommended Resources:The Murray Bowen Archives Project Elevator Systems Seasons 1 & 2Dr. Jenny Brown: Growing Yourself UpDr Ronald Richardson: Jane Austen’s Guide to Good RelationshipsDr Kathleen Smith: Everything Isn’t TerribleAvrum Nadigel: Learning to CommitAvrum Nadigel: It Takes More than LoveEsther Perel: Mating in Captivity New podcast episodes released every Tuesday this season—stay tuned as we explore relationships across the lifespan! Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts so you don’t miss a weekly release.Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and comment.Living Systems Counselling and Training provides educational material for those interested in learning more about Bowen family systems theory: https://livingsystems.caLiving Systems Hybrid Conference: October 17–18, 2025Conference theme: Aging—Individual Challenge or Family Opportunity?Learn more: https://livingsystems.ca/education/conferences/fall-2025-conference-on-aging/Key Topics:#BowenFamilySystems #LivingSystems #MurrayBowen #Therapy #SystemsThinking #Family #Dating #Couples #AuthenticDating #RelationshipInsights #RelationshipGoals #Single #Love #Marriage #BeingLiked #Monogamy #Polyamory #Divorce #TherapyPodcast #MentalHealth #Relationships #DifferentiationOfSelf #Differentiation #BowenTheory #ElevatorSystems #FamilySystemsTheory #ElevatorSystemsPodcast #MurrayBowenArchives #TMBAP #TheMurrayBowenArchivesProjectDISCLAIMER: This podcast is general information about Bowen family systems theory and is not considered the practice of counselling or therapy.  The information presented are the views of the people who say them. Any information used from this podcast is used at your own risk.
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  • S3 Ep4 Adolescence with Avrum Nadigel
    Welcome to Elevator Systems! In this episode we delve into the complexities of adolescence through the lens of Bowen family systems theory. Join hosts Dixie Vandersluys and Katie White with guest Avrum Nadigel as they explore how understanding family dynamics can illuminate the challenges and opportunities of the teenage years. Avrum Nadigel has been a marriage and family therapist for 25 years and has completed postgraduate training in Bowen family systems theory. He is the author of three book: “Learning to Commit”, “It Takes More than Love” and “Where Would you Like to Start: A Master Therapist on Beginning Psychotherapy with Families”. Avrum has co-produced two podcasts: “Pop Parenting” and “The Love Examined Playlist”.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:Bowen family systems theory’s unique perspective on adolescence: thinking about a teenager within the broader context of the familyHow multi-generational processes and family history impact adolescent behavior and developmentThe concept of differentiation and how teens strive to form their own identities while balancing family expectation and outside influenceThe significant role parents play in their adolescent's developmentPractical advice for supporting growth, individuality and connection for the familyExamples include: every John Hughes movie, music, sports, peer pressure, and summer campThis episode is for professionals, parents, teens or anyone navigating this pivotal stage of life. Tune in to discover how systems thinking is useful in adolescence.Recommended Resources:The Murray Bowen Archives Project Elevator Systems Seasons 1 & 2Family Matters, Surviving the Teen YearsAvrum Nadigel: Learning to CommitAvrum Nadigel: It Takes More than LoveAvrum Nadigel: Where Would you Like to Start: A Master Therapist on Beginning Psychotherapy with FamiliesDr. Ron Richardson: Family Ties that BindDr. Daniel J. Siegel: BrainstormDr. Kathleen Smith: True to You byNew podcast episodes released every Tuesday this season—stay tuned as we explore relationships across the lifespan! Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts so you don’t miss a weekly release.Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and comment.Living Systems Counselling and Training provides educational material for those interested in learning more about Bowen family systems theory: https://livingsystems.caLiving Systems Hybrid Conference: October 17–18, 2025Conference theme: Aging—Individual Challenge or Family Opportunity?Learn more: https://livingsystems.ca/education/conferences/fall-2025-conference-on-aging/Key Topics:#BowenFamilySystems #LivingSystems #MurrayBowen #Therapy #SystemsThinking #Family #Adolescence #Adolescents #Teens #Teenager #Growth #Development #PeerPressure #Expectations #JohnHughes #TheBreakfastClub #TherapyPodcast #MentalHealth #Relationships #DifferentiationOfSelf #Differentiation #BowenTheory #ElevatorSystems #FamilySystemsTheory #ElevatorSystemsPodcast #MurrayBowenArchives #TMBAP #TheMurrayBowenArchivesProjectDISCLAIMER: This podcast is general information about Bowen family systems theory and is not considered the practice of counselling or therapy.  The information presented are the views of the people who say them. Any information used from this podcast is used at your own risk.
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  • S3 Ep3 Pets with Kathleen Cotter Cauley
    Welcome to Elevator Systems! In Season 3 Episode 3 Kathleen Cotter Cauley joins Dixie Vandersluys and Katie White on the elevator to look at the role of pets in relationships — from cats and dogs to triangles and anxiety!Kathleen Cotter Cauley is a licensed marriage and family therapist and has a private practice in both Virginia and Florida. She’s a faculty member of the Bowen Center and was involved in founding the Florida Family Research Network. She has worked with guide dogs for over 30 years.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:Viewing pets as active participants in the emotional fieldHow animals reflect family anxiety and calmThe concept of reciprocity in human-animal relationshipsThe four patterns of reactivity (conflict, distance, projection, triangles) observed in petsHow pet entries and exits impact family dynamicsExamples from guide dogs, breeders, and meet our own pets!Whether you're new to Bowen Theory or a long-time learner, this episode offers surprising, insightful ways to observe functioning through your pets, watch anxiety move, and deepen your understanding of family systems.Recommended Resources:The Murray Bowen Archives Project Elevator Systems Seasons 1 & 2Alan Entin: Pets in the FamilyDr. Murray Bowen: Family Therapy in Clinical Practice Dr. Michael Kerr: “Family Systems Theory and Therapy” in A. Gurman & D. Kniskern (Eds.), Handbook of family therapy. New podcast episodes released every Tuesday this season—stay tuned as we explore relationships across the lifespan! Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts so you don’t miss a weekly release.Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and comment about what you’ve noticed in your own pet relationships.Living Systems Counselling and Training provides educational material for those interested in learning more about Bowen family systems theory: https://livingsystems.caLiving Systems Hybrid Conference: October 17–18, 2025Conference theme: Aging—Individual Challenge or Family Opportunity?Learn more: https://livingsystems.ca/education/conferences/fall-2025-conference-on-aging/Key Topics:#BowenFamilySystems #LivingSystems #MurrayBowen #Therapy #SystemsThinking #Family #PetsAndPeople #EmotionalSystems #AnxietyInFamilies #Reciprocity #Triangles #PetTherapy #DifferentiationOfSelf #GuideDogs #CatsAndDogs #EmotionalRegulation #TherapyPodcast #MentalHealth #EmotionalMaturity #Differentiation #Relationships #BowenTheory #FamilySystemsTheory #ElevatorSystemsPodcast #TherapyPodcast #MurrayBowenArchives #TMBAP #TheMurrayBowenArchivesProjectDISCLAIMER: This podcast is general information about Bowen family systems theory and is not considered the practice of counselling or therapy.  The information presented are the views of the people who say them. Any information used from this podcast is used at your own risk.
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  • S3 Ep2 Friendship with Dr. Guillermo Cancio-Bello
    Welcome to Elevator Systems! In Season 3 Episode 2 hosts Dixie Vandersluys and Katie White are joined by special guest Dr. Guillermo Cancio-Bello to talk about the many aspects and facets of friendship from a Bowen family systems perspective.Dr. Guillermo Cancio-Bello is an Assistant Professor of Counseling at Barry University and integrates Bowen theory into his clinical, academic, research, and organizational work. His teaching and scholarship focus on systems thinking, leadership development, and the personal and professional growth of counsellors-in-training. Guillermo currently serves as President of the Florida Association of Marriage and Family Counseling (FAMFC) and is also a board member of the Florida Family Research Network, which works to advance the science of human behavior based on the natural systems theory of the family developed by Murray Bowen.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:Differentiation (staying connected and separate) in friendshipThe role of sibling position in friend selectionFusion, triangles, and anxietyHow family of origin impacts adult relationshipsBowen theory insights on digital vs. in-person connectionsExamples from the biblical friendship of David & Jonathan to sending memes! For counsellors or anyone interested in understanding relationships better, this discussion will get you curious about how you show up in your friendships.Recommended Resources:The Murray Bowen Archives Project Elevator Systems Seasons 1 & 2The Relationships We Live In podcast: https://rss.com/podcasts/episode-1-the-relationships-we-live-in/The Anxious Overachiever newsletterDr Ronald Richardson: Jane Austen’s Guide to Good RelationshipsDr Kathleen Smith: Everything Isn’t TerribleDr Roberta Gilbert: Extraordinary RelationshipsDr. Robin Dunbar’s loneliness researchNew podcast episodes released every Tuesday this season—stay tuned as we explore relationships across the lifespan! Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts so you don’t miss a weekly release.Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and comment about how systems thinking is useful in your own friendships.Living Systems Counselling and Training provides educational material for those interested in learning more about Bowen family systems theory: https://livingsystems.caLiving Systems Hybrid Conference: October 17–18, 2025Conference theme: Aging—Individual Challenge or Family Opportunity?Learn more: https://livingsystems.ca/education/conferences/fall-2025-conference-on-aging/Key Topics:#BowenFamilySystems #LivingSystems #MurrayBowen #Therapy #SystemsThinking #Family #Friendship #TherapyPodcast #MentalHealth #EmotionalMaturity #Differentiation #Relationships #BowenTheory #FamilySystemsTheory #ElevatorSystemsPodcast #TherapyPodcast #LifeSpan #MurrayBowenArchives #TMBAP #TheMurrayBowenArchivesProjectDISCLAIMER: This podcast is general information about Bowen family systems theory and is not considered the practice of counselling or therapy.  The information presented are the views of the people who say them. Any information used from this podcast is used at your own risk.
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  • S3 Ep1 Parents with Dr. Kathleen Smith
    Welcome to Season 3 of Elevator Systems!In our first episode of the season, we're diving into our earliest relationship with parents/caregivers — a formative relationship that shapes us across the lifespan. Joining hosts Dixie Vandersluys & Katie White is licensed therapist and author Dr. Kathleen Smith. Kathleen’s books include Everything Isn't Terrible and True to You: A Therapist's Guide to Stop Pleasing Others and Start Being Yourself. Living in Washington, DC, Kathleen is a faculty member at the Bowen Center for the Study of the Family and author of the popular newsletter, The Anxious Overachiever.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:How our relationship with parents is “Olympic training for objectivity” How Bowen family systems theory broadens perspective to multigenerational patternsWhat happens when we see our parents as humans, not heroes or villainsThe role of blame, anxiety, and differentiation in adult relationshipsWhy cut-off isn’t always the end and the usefulness of curiosityReal-world examples: parenting, loss, tooth hygiene, and “Sweet Caroline” Whether you’re navigating family dynamics, interested in personal growth, or work in mental health, this episode has insights, humour, and practical tools to think differently about you and your family story.Recommended Resources:The Murray Bowen Archives Project Elevator Systems Seasons 1 & 2The Anxious Overachiever newsletterEverything Isn’t Terrible by Dr. Kathleen SmithTrue to You by Dr. Kathleen SmithFamily Therapy in Clinical Practice by Dr. Murray BowenFamily Ties that Bind by Dr. Ron RichardsonGrowing Yourself Up by Dr. Jenny BrownNew podcast episodes released every Tuesday this season—stay tuned as we explore relationships across the lifespan! Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts so you don’t miss a weekly release.Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and comment with your biggest takeaway or reflection about your own family relationships!Living Systems Counselling and Training provides educational material for those interested in learning more about Bowen family systems theory: https://livingsystems.caLiving Systems Hybrid Conference: October 17–18, 2025Conference theme: Aging—Individual Challenge or Family Opportunity?Learn more: https://livingsystems.ca/education/conferences/fall-2025-conference-on-aging/Key Topics:#ParentChildRelationships #TherapyPodcast #MentalHealth #Anxiety #Differentiation #FamilyDynamics #CutOff #Parenting #SelfGrowth #GenerationalTrauma #Family #Relationships #BowenTheory #FamilySystemsTheory #ElevatorSystemsPodcast #TherapyPodcast #BowenFamilySystems #LivingSystems #MurrayBowen #Therapy #SystemsThinking #Perspective #Generations #History #Humanity #Objectivity #LifeSpan #MurrayBowenArchives #TMBAP #TheMurrayBowenArchivesProjectDISCLAIMER: This podcast is general information about Bowen family systems theory and is not considered the practice of counselling or therapy.  The information presented are the views of the people who say them. Any information used from this podcast is used at your own risk.
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