Everything Cookbooks

We're turning the hosting reins over to Charlotte Druckman today to learn about Andrea Nguyen and Pim Techamuanvivit's experience collaborating on their new 'instant classic' cookbook, Cooking Thai. Pim shares her original idea for the book, how it evolved and the mission statement she settled on while Andrea explains why she felt drawn to work on her first collaboration with this project. They speak about recipe testing, the writing process and how they worked together, speaking on task division, communication styles and working through tension to create a product they're immensely proud of. Pim and Andrea each share what they learned from the other, how they challenged each other, the books they were inspired by and how they landed on an approachable yet educational tone before leaving us with some advice and a sneak peak.

Hosts: Kate Leahy + Molly Stevens + Kristin Donnelly + Andrea Nguyen
Editor: Abby Cerquitella


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Cooking Thai by Andrea Nguyen and Pim Techamuanvivit
Dishoom by Kavi Thakrar, Naved Nasir, and Shamil Thakrar
Kitchen Remix by Charlotte Druckman
Love in the Afternoon by Charlotte Druckman
Cooking without Borders by Anita Lo with Charlotte Druckman

Kate and Andrea speak with cookbook collaborators Joyce Tang and Soleil Ho about their new cookbook, Bake Sum. Joyce shares her journey from project manager to bakery owner to cookbook writer and why she wanted to write this book at this time. She describes how she got connected to Soleil who speaks about how working on cookbooks tends to be a relaxing break from running a media company. They share how they divvied up the work, the decision to include stories and histories in the project and insights behind the cover image. Joyce describes the recipe testing process and the challenge to 'smallerize' recipes while Soleil talks about the book's unique organization before they each share their thoughts on working through an 'Asian Americana' lens. Finally they share the audience they hope the book reaches and the lessons they each learned along the way.
Hosts: Kate Leahy + Molly Stevens + Kristin Donnelly + Andrea Nguyen
Editor: Abby Cerquitella


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Bake Sum by Joyce Tang and Soleil Ho

Kate and Kristin speak with Frances Abrantes Baca about her wide ranging design experience in the food media space. The founding design director of the award winning magazine Gastronimica, Frances shares her thoughts about the design elements that go into a cookbook—color, contrast, titles, page numbers, typeface, layout, covers, spines and, don't forget the table of contents. She discusses what catches her eye, what the differences in specific design roles are and where she finds inspiration before revealing what design choices draw her in and which drive her nuts. She talks about her newsletter, her process and leaves us with a few ideas and tips for authors and aspiring designers both.
Hosts: Kate Leahy + Molly Stevens + Kristin Donnelly + Andrea Nguyen
Editor: Abby Cerquitella

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Episode 18: Pro Tips from Cookbook Critic Paula Forbes
Episode 11: Understanding Cookbook Design with Alice Chau
Episode 91: The UX of Cookbook Design

The Elements of Typographic Style by Robert Bringhurst
Sasquatch Books
Stained Page News
What Makes a Cookbook Cover Successful?
Don't Sleep on the TOC
Bay Area Women in Publishing Mentorship

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Wine Simple by Aldo Sohm and Christine Muhlke
Tasting Rome by Katie Parla and Kristina Gill
Cookbooking: a Fan's Guide by Debbie Berne
The Design of Books by Debbie Berne

This episode is quite special. In fall 2025, Kristin and Kate spoke with longtime book designer Debbie Berne about her work in progress, Cookbooking: A Fan's Guide. She told us about the book in 2024, and we knew back then that it was a book for us. Author Michael Chabon called it a “theme-park ride through Cookbookland" — and he's right: the book is crammed with stories about food fads, hippy cooking, books for dudes, cooking "bibles," and so much more.
While Debbie was writing Cookbooking, she was also grappling with a form of incurable brain cancer. We recorded this interview when we did so she could tell us about the book in her own words. She passed away in December 2025, but her indomitable spirt and humor lives on in the pages of Cookbooking.
Hosts: Kate Leahy + Molly Stevens + Kristin Donnelly + Andrea Nguyen
Editor: Abby Cerquitella


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Cookbooking: a Fan's Guide by Debbie Berne
The Design of Books by Debbie Berne

Welcome to Season 10! Kate, Kristin, Andrea and Molly discuss the upcoming fall cookbook season and some of their thoughts about the current publishing landscape. They talk about price hikes and cookbook sales, AI recipes and their appreciation for the human touch and some of the obstacles that publishing is currently encountering. They share their thoughts and musings about what they see as the ups and downs in the wider world of books, and within the niche corner of cookbooks, before getting celebrating their new releases and upcoming projects.

Hosts: Kate Leahy + Molly Stevens + Kristin Donnelly + Andrea Nguyen

Editor: Abby Cerquitella





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Episode 144: The Author-Agent Relationship with Peter J. Kim and David Black

Episode 62: Single Subject Cookbooks with Martha Holmberg

Episode 178: Comic Book Cookbooks with Sarah Becan

Episode 135: The Manuscript is In. Now What? with Martin Sorge

Read it and Eat

Not so Secret Agent with Sally Ekus

Headnotes with Frances Baca

Cookbookery Collective with Jenna Helwig

Dianne Jacob's Newsletter

The Dinner Plan with Maggie Hoffman

Has the Restaurant Cookbook Boom Gone Bust?

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Cooking Thai by Andrea Nguyen and Pim Techamuanvivit

Food in Jars by Marisa McClellan

Simply Tomato by Martha Holmberg

Hand Taste by Esther Choi

Great Bakes by Martin Sorge