The Science of Personality Podcast

In the latest episode of The Science of Personality, Blake and special cohost and guest, Jackie Sahm, talk about the things we get wrong about people. Jackie has spent her entire career at Hogan, starting as an intern while in the IO psychology program at the University of Tulsa. From there, she worked her way up to consultant, then to Hogan’s director of global learning, and eventually landing in her current role as Hogan’s VP of integrated solutions. Over the course of that journey, Jackie has seen just about every challenge an organization can face when it comes to people and talent development. In this episode, Blake taps into that knowledge and experience with a wide variety of questions that shine a light on what we get wrong about people

In the latest episode of The Science of Personality, Blake and special cohost Jackie Sahm, Hogan’s VP of integrated solutions, are joined by Alexander Haslam, PhD, professor of psychology at the University of Queensland, to discuss the topic of Zombie Leadership. This term, coined by Alex and his co-authors, Matt Alvesson, PhD, and Stephen Reicher, PhD, refers to an equally fascinating and destructive phenomenon currently plaguing the global workforce. So, that begs the question: What is Zombie Leadership? What are these undead ideas that continue to walk among us, refusing to die? Check out our conversation with Alex and find out.

Cheers, everybody.

In the latest episode of The Science of Personality, Blake and special cohost Jackie Sahm, Hogan’s VP of integrated solutions, are joined by Alexander Haslam, PhD, professor of psychology at the University of Queensland, to discuss the topic of Zombie Leadership. This term, coined by Alex and his co-authors, Matt Alvesson, PhD, and Stephen Reicher, PhD, refers to an equally fascinating and destructive phenomenon currently plaguing the global workforce. So, that begs the question: What is Zombie Leadership? What are these undead ideas that continue to walk among us, refusing to die? Check out our conversation with Alex and find out.

Cheers, everybody.

In this special episode of The Science of Personality, Ryne and Blake interview guests in person at the 2026 Society for Industrial and Organizational Psychology (SIOP) Conference in New Orleans. Featured guests include:
Adrian Furnham, PhD, world-renowned psychologist and author
Looking Beyond Engagement and Really Tackling the Organizational Disconnect in Modern Work Psychology 
Irina Cozma, PhD, organizational psychologist and executive coach, Hogan Coaching Network
Designing Work for Humans with a Specific Focus on Inclusion, Fulfillment, and Fun
 Laura Heaton, PhD, vice president of talent development, Penske Transportation Solutions
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Ron Festa, PhD, president, New Heights Consulting
Binge-Worthy Leadership Development and Enhancing our Learning Through Popular TV Series
Kevin Impelman, PhD, principal consultant, Summit Leadership Partners
Leadership and the Human Capital Advantage in Private Equity

In the latest episode of The Science of Personality, Ryne and Blake are joined by David Condon, PhD, director of Hogan’s newly formed Science of Personality Institute, to discuss his new role and vision for this exciting and innovative extension of the Hogan brand.