You are listening to Burnt Toast. I'm Virginia Sole-Smith. Today my conversation is with Tracy Clark-Flory.
Tracy is a journalist, essayist, and author of the new memoir My Mother's Daughter: Finding Myself in My Family's Fractured Past, which Kirkus calls "powerful," "deeply researched," "lyrically written," "trenchant," and "moving." She's also the author of Want Me: A Sex Writer’s Journey into the Heart of Desire, an NPR Best Book of the year. Tracy writes a weekly newsletter and co-hosts Dire Straights, a feminist podcast critiquing hetero love, sex, politics and culture. You can find more at tracyclarkflory.com.
Tracy joined me to chat about her new memoir My Mother’s Daughter, stigma around unwed motherhood, stigma and shame around women who like sex and how so often daughters don’t know their mothers’ lives, especially the parts having to do with love and sex.
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BUTTER & LINKS
Tracy's Butter: Sexual Pleasure for Dummies by Myisha Battle
Virginia's Butter: "Just hanging out with your friends and watching a really good movie you can all really discuss." (We watched Babygirl!)
One last thing! You will want to read My Mother’s Daughter after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "fat talk" at checkout.
Now here's Tracy.
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
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