Bites and Bytes Podcast

On this episode of the Bites and Bytes Podcast, your host, Kristin King, is back with the second installment of the Seafood Summer Series, sitting down with Emily De Sousa, a fisheries scientist who turned into a seafood educator and founder of Seaside with Emily. As you know, this podcast sits at the intersection of food systems and cybersecurity, examining what it takes to keep the systems that feed us running and secure. This episode looks at a different kind of vulnerability: trust. Emily has spent her career studying what happens when the seafood supply chain breaks down, from mislabeling and fraud to the myths that keep people confused at the fish counter, and turning that research into education people can use!
We get into seafood fraud, the myths around farmed versus wild seafood, and what it takes to buy, cook, and trust seafood again. It’s a bit of a look behind the curtain and some of your more burning seafood questions. 
If you missed the first installment of the Seafood Summer Series, please go back and listen to James Sibley, the “Fish Fluencer”, break down aquaculture.
Find Emily De Sousa:
Newsletter: https://www.seasidewithemily.com/newsletter-signup
Website: https://www.seasidewithemily.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilycdesousa/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seasidewithemily
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@seasidewithemily
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@seasidewithemily

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Episode Key Highlights
00:00:21 — Why Seafood Confusion Costs Consumers and the Industry
00:12:20 — The Secret to Crispy Fish Skin
00:17:26 — The Biggest Seafood Misconceptions
00:22:19 — Why Wild-Caught Seafood Alone Cannot Meet Global Demand
00:29:31 — The Truth About Salmon Color
00:35:32 — How Seafood Fraud Happens
00:44:10 — Why Tinned Fish Is Having a Moment
00:54:42 — The Future of Seafood and Whole-Fish Use
00:58:24 — Understanding Food Systems Before Securing Them
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📘 Kristin’s book, “Securing What Feeds Us:  Cybersecurity in Food and Agriculture,” is here.
Food & Agriculture Cyber Incident Atlas is located here: https://securingwhatfeedsus.com/atlas
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🎤 Book Kristin Demoranville toSpeak
To invite Kristin to speak at your conference, corporate event, webinar, or workshop, visit the website and submit a request.
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Website: Explore all our episodes, articles, and more on our official website.  
MerchShop: Show your support with some awesome Bites and Bytes gear!
Substack: Stay updated with the latest insights and stories from the world of cybersecurity in the food industry.
Socials: TikTok;Instagram;LinkedIn;BlueSky
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🛡️ About AnzenSage & AnzenOT
AnzenSage is a cybersecurity advisory firm specializing in security resilience for the food, agriculture, zoo, and aquarium industries.  AnzenSage offers practical, strategic guidance to help organizations anticipate risks and build resilience.  Learn more about their offerings at anzensage.com.​
AnzenO helps organizations understand and prioritize operational risk faster, without slow or static assessments. Subscription access is available, including a student option. Learn more at anzenot.com.

Welcome to the Seafood Summer Series 2026 on the Bites and Bytes Podcast, and we are kicking it off with a great one!
Over 120 million tons of seafood are farmed every year. Most people have no idea. And the technology making it happen: AI-powered feeding systems, underwater robots, satellite-connected ocean farms, is advancing faster than the policy and security frameworks trying to keep up with it.  That disconnect is exactly why this conversation matters.
James Sibley, known in the aquaculture world as the Fish Fluencer, is an aquaculture educator and content creator who has spent five years visiting fish farms across four continents to explain one of the most consequential and overlooked food systems on the planet. From salmon farms in Scotland and New Zealand to shellfish operations in Southeast Asia, James has seen firsthand how technology is transforming the way we farm the sea, and what happens when that technology outpaces the people managing it.
This episode covers aquaculture technology, smart fish farming, ocean farming innovation, seafood supply chain transparency, and food security. If you eat seafood, work in food and agriculture, or care about where your food comes from, this one is for you.
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Guest: James Sibley"Fish Fluencer" | Aquaculture Creator & Founder
🌐 james-sibley.com
💼 linkedin.com/in/jameslsibley
📸 Instagram: @sibleyaqua
▶️ TikTok: @sibleyaqua
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Episode Key Highlights
00:03:15   Meet James Sibley: The Fish Fluencer
00:07:26 James’s Origin Story: From Fishmonger to Content Creator
00:14:12   Inside the Farm: AI, 4K Cameras, and Live Monitoring
00:18:19   Cleaner Fish: Nature's Answer to Sea Lice
00:24:33   Climate Change: The Ocean Feels It First
00:36:09   Aquaculture and Global Food Security
00:38:39   IoT, Drones, and Tech on the Water
00:41:39   Underwater Robots and ROVs
00:47:00  Cybersecurity on the Water
00:53:04   The Supply Chain Reality: 3 Years vs. 48 Hours
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📘 Info on Kristin’s upcoming book “Securing What Feeds Us: Cybersecurity in Food and Agriculture.”
Publish Date: September 29, 2026, published by Wiley
Learn More here: https://securingwhatfeedsus.com/
Newsletter: https://kristin-king.kit.com/newsletter
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🎤 Book Kristin Demoranville to Speak
Invite Kristin to speak at your conference, corporate event, webinar, or workshop. Visit the ⁠website⁠ and submit a request.
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🎤 Bites and Bytes Podcast Info:
⁠Website⁠: Explore all our episodes, articles, and more on our official website.  
⁠Merch Shop⁠: Show your support with some awesome Bites and Bytes gear!
⁠Substack⁠: Stay updated with the latest insights and stories from the world of cybersecurity in the food industry.
Socials: ⁠TikTok⁠; ⁠Instagram⁠; LinkedIn⁠; ⁠BlueSky⁠
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🛡️ About AnzenSage & AnzenOT
⁠AnzenSage⁠ is a cybersecurity advisory firm specializing in cyber-physical risk management for the food, agriculture, zoo, and aquarium industries. AnzenSage offers practical, strategic guidance to help organizations anticipate risks and build resilience.  Learn more about their offerings at ⁠anzensage.com⁠.​

⁠AnzenOT⁠helps organizations understand and prioritize operational risk faster, without slow or static assessments. Compliance supported, including NIST, ISA/IEC 62443-2-1, NIS2 Directive, CMMC, and many other industry-specific frameworks.  Subscription access is available, including a student option. Learn more at ⁠anzenot.com.

Most people have never heard of insect agriculture. By the end of this episode, you’ll wonder how you missed it.
Bites & Bytes Podcast host Kristin King sits down with Dr. Heather Jordan, microbiologist, professor at Mississippi State University, and site director for the NSF-funded Center for Insect Biomanufacturing and Innovation (CIBI), and Cheryl Preyer, the center’s industry liaison and former fast food executive, to unpack one of the most quietly consequential shifts happening in the global food system right now.
For consumers, this is where your food waste is going next and why that matters for everything from the fish on your plate to the cost of your groceries. Black soldier fly, cricket, and mealworm farming aren’t science fiction. They’re converting food waste into high-quality livestock feed, fertilizer, and protein at scale. Research is even showing promise in using these insects to remove plastics, antibiotics, and heavy metals from our environment.
For professionals in cyber-physical risk, OT security, and food and agriculture cybersecurity, pay attention. Insect agriculture facilities are automated, sensor-dependent production environments with real operational technology vulnerabilities, and this industry is scaling fast with limited security frameworks in place (aka a factory)
This is the circular bioeconomy in action. And it already exists.
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Guest Contact Information:
Dr. Heather Jordan
Professor of Microbiology and Molecular Biology, Mississippi State University, and Site Director, Center for Insect Biomanufacturing and Innovation (CIBI)
Cheryl Preyer
Industry Liaison Officer, Center for Insect Biomanufacturing and Innovation
Center for Insect Biomanufacturing and Innovation
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Episode Key Highlights
‍ 00:08:01 — "I Traded Fries for Flies" — Cheryl’s Origin Line
00:11:49 — Insect Farming Is Livestock Farming
00:12:37 — "Feed the Food That Feeds Us."
00:16:02 — What a Black Soldier Fly Actually Does as an Adult
00:23:19 — Why Organic Chickens Need Synthetic Methionine
00:23:50 — The Lauric Acid and Coconut Connection
00:28:34 — Using Everything But the Oink
00:39:51 — The Cricket Densovirus Crisis That Wiped Out Facilities
00:50:15 — Heather’s West Africa Origin Story
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📘 Info on Kristin’s upcoming book📘
“Securing What Feeds Us: Cybersecurity in Food and Agriculture”
Publish Date: September 29, 2026
Published by Wiley
📘 Pre-Order Links:
Pre-Order Link (Amazon): ⁠https://www.amazon.com/Securing-What-Feeds-Cybersecurity-Agriculture/dp/1394391005#detailBullets_feature_div⁠
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🎤 Book Kristin Demoranville to Speak
To invite Kristin to speak at your conference, corporate event, webinar, or workshop, visit the website and submit a request.
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🎤 Bites and Bytes Podcast Info:
Website: Explore all our episodes, articles, and more on our official website.  
Merch Shop: Show your support with some awesome Bites and Bytes gear!
Substack: Stay updated with the latest insights and stories from the world of cybersecurity in the food industry.
Socials: TikTok; Instagram; LinkedIn; BlueSky
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🛡️ About AnzenSage & AnzenOT
AnzenSage is a cybersecurity advisory firm specializing in security resilience for the food, agriculture, zoo, and aquarium industries.  AnzenSage offers practical, strategic guidance to help organizations anticipate risks and build resilience.  Learn more about their offerings at anzensage.com.​
AnzenOT helps organizations understand and prioritize operational risk faster, without slow or static assessments. Compliance supported, including NIST, ISA/IEC 62443-2-1, NIS2 Directive, CMMC, and many other industry-specific frameworks.  Subscription access is available, including a student option. Learn more at anzenot.com.

She’s back. And she brought a book.
After a quieter stretch on the feed, Kristin King returnsto the Bites & Bytes Podcast with a solo episode to announce what she’s been building behind the scenes: Securing What Feeds Us: Cybersecurity in Food and Agriculture, published by Wiley and available for pre-order now, with an official release date of September 29, 2026.
In this episode, Kristin breaks down what’s inside the nearly 500-page book, from precision agriculture and operational technology to aquaculture, agroterrorism, food science innovation, and the human layer that runs through all of it. She makes the case for why food and agriculture deserve the same cybersecurity attention we give to the power grid or financial sector and explains who this book is really for (spoiler: it’s anyone who eats).
She also talks about where the podcast is headed next andmakes one clear ask of the community that helped get her here.
Here are the “Securing What Feeds Us: Cybersecurity in Food and Agriculture” book Pre-Order Links:
📘 US Pre-Order Link (Amazon):
https://www.amazon.com/Securing-What-Feeds-Cybersecurity-Agriculture/dp/1394391005#detailBullets_feature_div
📘 UK Pre-Order Link (Amazon): https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1394391005?ref=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_MFWDKT09AMPZSA86K9NH&ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_MFWDKT09AMPZSA86K9NH&social_share=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_MFWDKT09AMPZSA86K9NH&bestFormat=true
📘 Barns & Noble:
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/securing-what-feeds-us-kristin-king/1149440985
📘 Bookshop.org:
https://bookshop.org/p/books/securing-what-feeds-us-cybersecurity-in-food-and-agriculture-kristin-king/801d9d7a8eb2741b?ean=9781394391004&next=t
⭐ If you prefer to order from a local bookstore, you can give them the ISBN.
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Episode Key Highlights
00:01:49 The Book Announcement: Securing What Feeds Us
00:04:52 The Foreword: Dr. Darren Detwiler
00:09:20 The Gap Between Two Worlds ThatNeeded a Book
00:11:30 Who This Book Is Really For
00:14:03 Food Is Critical Infrastructure
00:15:43 The Real Stakes: Ransomware,Precision Ag & Agroterrorism
00:23:06 Food Science, 3D Printing & theFuture of Food
00:25:38 Resilience Over Compliance
00:28:38 The Quote: Mainstream Urgency
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📘 Sign up for early updates, exclusive previews, and news about Kristin’s book, “Securing What Feeds Us:  Cybersecurity in Food and Agriculture,” here.
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🎤 Book Kristin Demoranville to Speak
To invite Kristin to speak at your conference, corporate event, webinar, or workshop, visit the website and submit a request.
---------------
🎤 Bites and Bytes Podcast Info:
Website: Explore all our episodes, articles, and more on our official website.  
Merch Shop: Show your support with some awesome Bites and Bytes gear!
Substack: Stay updated with the latest insights and stories from the world of cybersecurity in the food industry.
Socials: TikTok;Instagram;LinkedIn;BlueSky
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🛡️ About AnzenSage & AnzenOT
AnzenSage is a cybersecurity advisory firm specializing in security resilience for thefood, agriculture, zoo, and aquarium industries.  AnzenSage offers practical, strategic guidance to help organizations anticipate risks and build resilience.  Learn more about their offerings at anzensage.com.​
AnzenOThelps organizations understand and prioritize operational risk faster, without slow or static assessments. Subscription access is available, including a student option. Learn more at anzenot.com.

Danielle Jablanski isn’t your typical OT security expert… she studied genocide in Rwanda, analyzed future water wars for her master’s thesis, and once received a phishing text inviting her to eat grilled crocodile on the beach. Now leading STV’s OT cybersecurity consulting program and teaching at both Middlebury Institute and Dallas College, Danielle brings policy depth, technical expertise, and genuine curiosity to oneof the most wide-ranging conversations we’ve ever had.
We chase every rabbit worth chasing, smart greenhouses, vulnerabilities, food monopolies, insects, data integrity risks, geopolitics, and how food travels. Danielle shares lessons from nuclear security, explains why compromised data is scarier than loss of control, and makes the case for why more security pros should care about what ends up on our plates.
This is exactly how Kristin and Danielle talk when the mics aren’t rolling… except this time they were.
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Episode Key Highlights
00:01:03 — Creative Phishing Texts
00:10:27 — How Kristin and Danielle Met
00:17:08 — Insects and the Food Chain
00:28:05 — Monopolies and Single Points of Failure
00:30:32 — Rat Trap Sensors vs. Robot Pickers
00:33:46 — Centralization Risk
00:44:25 — Data Integrity vs. Loss of Control
00:55:30 — Food as Critical Infrastructure
01:06:30 — Global Supply Chain and Ports
01:15:45 — China, Soybeans, and Soft Power
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📘 Sign up for early updates, exclusive previews, and launch news of Kristin’s book, “Securing What Feeds Us:  Cybersecurity in Food and Agriculture,” here.
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🎤 Book Kristin Demoranville to Speak: website to submit a request.
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🎤 Bites and Bytes Podcast Info:
Website: Explore all our episodes, articles, and more on our official website.  
Merch Shop: Show your support with some awesome Bites and Bytes gear!
Substack:Stay updated with the latest insights and stories from the world of cybersecurity in the food industry.
Schedule a Call with Kristin: Share Your Thoughts
Socials: TikTok; Instagram; LinkedIn; BlueSky
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🛡️ About AnzenSage & AnzenOT
AnzenSage is a cybersecurity advisory firm specializing in security resilience for the food, agriculture, zoo, and aquarium industries.  AnzenSage offers practical, strategic guidance to help organizations anticipate risks and build resilience.  Learn more about their offerings at anzensage.com.​
AnzenOThelps organizations understand and prioritize operationalrisk faster, without slow or static assessments. Subscription access is available, including a student option. Learn more at anzenot.com.