AI as a Strategic Thought Partner with UX Implications
Teresa Torres and Petra Wille dive into how they’re using AI as strategic thought partners across writing, coding, and product work. Petra shares how she relies on voice input and bilingual transcription to brainstorm and surface her past writing. Teresa explains why Claude Code in the terminal completely changed her workflow—from planning mode for coding projects to using reviewer “sub-agents” when drafting blog posts. Together, they reflect on how tools like ChatGPT and Claude complement each other, why they still write every word themselves, and what it means when English becomes the interface for everything we do.
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AI Evals & Discovery
Building AI products isn’t just about clever prompts and orchestration—it’s about knowing if what you’ve built actually works. In this episode, Teresa Torres and Petra Wille dive deep into AI evals: how they’re defined, why they’re essential, and how teams can implement them to ensure product quality.
Teresa shares her journey building her Interview Coach tool and the hard lessons she learned about evals along the way. From golden datasets and synthetic data to error analysis, code-based checks, and LLM-as-judge methods, you’ll walk away with a clearer picture of how to measure and improve AI products over time.
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Building AI Products
In this episode of All Things Product, Petra Wille flips the script and asks Teresa Torres a big, timely question: How do product teams learn to build AI-powered products—beyond just dabbling with ChatGPT? Teresa shares fresh insights from her own experience building a real AI product over the past several months, breaking down the unique skills, workflows, and cross-functional collaboration patterns required for success.
You’ll hear why building AI features is more like orchestrating a team of interns than just writing a killer prompt, and how practices like observability, evals, and ongoing maintenance need to evolve for the LLM era. If you’re a product person figuring out where AI fits in your org, this conversation will give you a clear, practical starting point.
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Stop Chasing Promotions
So many of us chase promotions as if they’re the ultimate career milestone—but are they really the best goal? In this conversation, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres unpack why promotions can be a tricky (and sometimes misleading) target, what to focus on instead, and how to reframe career growth around skills, influence, and personal fulfillment.
In this episode of All Things Product, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres dig into the obsession with promotions and why they might not be the best north star for your career. Instead, they explore what it looks like to invest in personal growth, craftsmanship, and influence—and how those things can open doors far beyond a title change.
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Curation
We’re back from our summer break! In this first episode of the new season, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres catch up on Product at Heart and dive into the conference’s 2025 theme: curation.
From backlogs and customer segments to product experiences and your own workload, curation is everywhere in product work. Petra and Teresa explore why this skill is more critical than ever—especially in a world where AI is making it faster and cheaper to build.
You’ll hear how to avoid the “Homer Simpson car” trap, why saying “no” is part of the job, and how to define your own curation criteria so you can make sharper, more intentional choices.
Whether you’re easing back into work post-summer or staring down a mountain of priorities, this episode will help you put on your curator’s hat and focus on what matters most.
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra – Unfiltered, insightful, and straight to the point.
Join Teresa Torres and Petra Wille as they dive into the world of product management—one topic at a time. No long interviews, no fluff—just real conversations about the challenges, trends, and ideas shaping the way we build products.
Each week, we tackle a different topic in short, digestible episodes (15-30 minutes)—perfect for your morning commute or coffee break.
🎯 What to expect:
🔹 Curated randomness: We take turns picking topics, bringing fresh perspectives to each discussion.
🔹 Unscripted, authentic conversations: Personal experiences, opinions, and practical advice—without the corporate polish.
🔹 For product people, by product people: Whether you're a product manager or product leader, you’ll find insights you can actually use.
Expect deep dives into product thinking, decision-making, leadership, experimentation, AI, and more—plus the occasional spicy take.
💡 Got a topic you’d love us to cover? Send it our way!
🎧 Listen to All Things Product on your favorite podcast platform and join the conversation.
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