The Next Wave - AI and The Future of Technology

• Why Figma Make Might Be the Most Important AI Tool of 2025

  Want better results from AI tools? Get the Advanced Prompt Engineering guide: https://clickhubspot.com/mgv Episode 71: What if you could turn your Figma designs into fully functioning apps—just by asking? Host Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) is joined by David Kossnick (https://x.com/DKossnick), a key leader at Figma working on the cutting edge of AI-powered design tools. David is part of the team behind Figma Make, Figma's groundbreaking new tool that takes your sketches, mockups, or even simple prompts and instantly transforms them into interactive, code-backed applications. In this episode, David demonstrates how Figma Make builds real apps—like dashboards, games, and data-powered prototypes—right before your eyes. The discussion goes deep into Figma’s AI journey: from their first AI-powered features to the vision for democratizing software creation in a truly collaborative, multiplayer environment. Whether you’re a designer, entrepreneur, or just someone with big ideas, this episode is a glimpse into the AI-native future of how products will be built. Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd — Show Notes: (00:00) Multiplayer Code-Generating Dashboard Tool (04:29) Collaborative Project Creation with Supabase (09:29) Prompt Management Overview (10:46) Emerging Interactive Design Space (14:57) Designing with AI: Complement, Not Replace (18:24) Figma: A Collaborative Design Hub (22:42) Empowering Designers with New Superpowers (25:35) Future of Design and Innovation (28:37) AI's Impact on Future Society (29:48) AI's Future in Healthcare (33:19) Figma AI's Exciting Future — Mentions: David Kossnick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidkossnick Figma: https://www.figma.com/ Figma Make: https://www.figma.com/make/ Supabase: https://supabase.com/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ Waymo: https://waymo.com/ Duolingo: https://www.duolingo.com/ Get the guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/tnw — Check Out Matt’s Stuff: • Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/ • Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/ • YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow — Check Out Nathan's Stuff: Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/ Blog - https://lore.com/ The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

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• Everyone’s Using AI Wrong — Here’s the Real Opportunity

  Want Nicholas' 3-step AI framework for businesses? get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/pge Episode 70: Is AI just a productivity booster, or are we missing the real transformation right in front of us? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) is joined by Nicholas Holland (https://x.com/nicholasholland), SVP of Product & Head of AI at HubSpot, who’s spent nearly a decade driving innovation and building applied AI solutions in real-world business settings. In this episode, Matt and Nicholas dive deep into the seismic shift happening in AI: from simple assistants that help with your emails, to autonomous agents that actually do meaningful work for you—what Nicholas calls "work as a service." You’ll discover how forward-thinking teams are structuring their meeting data to unlock hidden value, why a new class of “super contributor” is emerging in sales and marketing, and how to use Nicholas’s practical four-step AI adoption framework to turn overwhelm into a competitive advantage. Whether you want to future-proof your business or become an “agent manager” in the coming wave, this conversation is full of actionable insights for teams, leaders, and entrepreneurs. Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd — Show Notes: (00:00) AI's Impact on Work Dynamics (06:22) Shift from SaaS to WaaS (09:09) Streamlined Agent Deployment (11:38) Human-Centric Customer Experience Challenges (14:35) Defining Agency in AI Tools (19:35) AI Executive Assistant Development (23:01) Streamlined Customer Interaction Automation (26:01) Streamlining Customer Support Solutions (28:25) Navigating AI Communication Threads (29:41) Outsourcing Memory with Technology (35:24) Token Count Excitement (36:10) Crafting Effective Ad Integration Techniques (41:37) Revamped Breeze: Multi-LLM Integration (43:35) Rise of Agent Managers — Mentions: Nicholas Holland: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nashvilleholland/ HubSpot: https://www.hubspot.com/ HubSpot Breeze: https://www.hubspot.com/products/artificial-intelligence Claude: https://claude.ai/ Granola: https://www.granola.ai/ Get the guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/tnw — Check Out Matt’s Stuff: • Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/ • Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/ • YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow — Check Out Nathan's Stuff: Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/ Blog - https://lore.com/ The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

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• This Free Tool Turns AI Prompts Into Designer-Level Sites

  Want better outputs from AI? Get our free Prompt Engineering guide: https://clickhubspot.com/cnj Episode 69: Why do so many AI-generated websites end up looking generic—and how can you use “vibe coding” to stand out with truly designer-level style? Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) sits down with design legend Meng To (https://x.com/MengTo), founder of Design+Code and creator of innovative tools like Aura, to deliver a practical masterclass on prompting AI for web design that’s not just beautiful, but memorable and conversion-friendly. In this episode, Meng shares his approach to breaking free from generic, templated looks by leveraging a precise design vocabulary, including layouts, color theory, typography, animations, and unique assets. Learn how to use free resources and smart prompting techniques to turn basic AI outputs into custom-crafted sites that reflect your taste and business needs. If you care about making your site stand out in the age of AI tools like Lovable, V0, and Aura, don’t miss this hands-on walkthrough! Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd — Show Notes: (00:00) Improving AI Design with Aura (05:32) Single-File HTML/CSS Design Simplicity (07:27) Defining "Beautiful Site" Concepts (10:19) Modern Skeuomorphism and Typography Trends (15:22) Master AI Prompt Engineering (16:16) Website Design: The Hero Component (20:13) AI-Generated Dynamic Color Schemes (22:51) Personalized AI: Create Your Solution — Mentions: Meng To: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mengto/ Design+Code: https://designcode.io/ Aura: https://aura.build/ Spline: https://spline.design/ Unicorn Studio: https://unicorn.studio/ Lovable: https://lovable.so/ V0: https://v0.dev/ Cursor: https://www.cursor.so/ Get the guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/tnw — Check Out Matt’s Stuff: • Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/ • Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/ • YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow — Check Out Nathan's Stuff: Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/ Blog - https://lore.com/ The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

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• Inside Google's AI Lab: Drug Discovery, World AI Model & AlphaEvolve

  Want the ultimate guide to Google's Gemini? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/evt Episode 68: How is Google DeepMind pushing the boundaries of AI to tackle drug discovery, robotics, and even autonomous AI agents? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) sits down with DeepMind CEO Sir Demis Hassabis (https://x.com/demishassabis), a neuroscientist, AI pioneer, Nobel laureate, and knight, to peel back the curtain on Google’s latest advances—and the ethical challenges that come with them. In this episode, Matt and Demis go deep on what’s powering the newest generation of AI agents, how models like AlphaFold and AlphaEvolve are accelerating scientific breakthroughs, and why world models are so important for the future of robotics. Demis shares why he believes AI is poised to reshape society—for better and for worse—and what Google is doing to build public trust in its systems. Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd — Show Notes: (00:00) AI Revolutionizing Drug Discovery (03:35) Advanced Model Training Methods (07:06) Accelerating Drug Discovery with AI (11:12) AI's Responsible Role in Society (13:56) AI Revolutionizing Science & Life — Mentions: Sir Demis Hassabis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/demishassabis/ Google DeepMind: https://deepmind.google/ AlphaFold: https://alphafold.ebi.ac.uk/ AlphaEvolve: https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/alphaevolve-a-gemini-powered-coding-agent-for-designing-advanced-algorithms/ Isomorphic Labs: https://www.isomorphiclabs.com/ Android XR glasses: http://blog.google/products/android/android-xr-gemini-glasses-headsets/ Get the guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/tnw — Check Out Matt’s Stuff: • Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/ • Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/ • YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow — Check Out Nathan's Stuff: Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/ Blog - https://lore.com/ The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

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• How Tom Bilyeu Uses AI + Why He'll Never Hire Again

  Want Matt's AI Tools Playbook? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/dsb Episode 67: What does the future of hiring and creative work look like in an age where A.I. can replace entire departments? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) and Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) sit down with Tom Bilyeu (https://x.com/TomBilyeu), co-founder of Quest Nutrition, host of Impact Theory, and founder of Impact Theory Studios, to dig deep into how he’s revolutionized his business with A.I.—and why he may never need to hire the same way again. This episode explores how Tom Bilyeu structures and deploys a five-member A.I. “department” to automate everything from marketing to content creation, and how this approach is reducing headcount without sacrificing creativity. Tom discusses the granular details of training custom GPTs to capture his voice, fact-checking with Grok, A.I.’s impact on indie game development, and what society might look like as technology accelerates. Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd — Show Notes: (00:00) Customizing AI for Specific Tasks (04:48) AI Revolutionizing Content Creation (08:08) Tech Glitch Trauma (11:25) Grok's Detailed Writing Advantage (15:04) AI in Game Development Reception (16:40) Tech Embrace vs. Religious Rejection (21:33) Future of AI in Gaming (22:32) AI Storytelling in Virtual Worlds (25:52) AI: The New Global Hegemon (31:35) Mouse Utopia Experiment Collapse (32:13) Hardship is Essential for Growth (37:51) Virtual Worlds vs Space Exploration (38:54) Tech Integration: Matrix and Beyond (42:10) Year-Round AI Integration (46:41) From Prototype to Product — Mentions: Tom Bilyeu: https://www.youtube.com/c/TomBilyeu Impact Theory: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tom-bilyeus-impact-theory/id1191775648 Grok: https://x.ai/ Lovable: https://lovable.dev/ Get the guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/tnw — Check Out Matt’s Stuff: • Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/ • Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/ • YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow — Check Out Nathan's Stuff: Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/ Blog - https://lore.com/ The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

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