Bitcoin Audible

"If people are not ready for Bitcoin, just go use USDT as long as you can before dollar hyperinflation. It's like Noah's Ark: it's going to rain, we build the ark. We don't have to force people on board. Just wait there, and when you feel ready to swim, come aboard."

~ Giacomo Zucco

Earlier this year at the Plan B conference in El Salvador, I managed to pull Giacomo Zucco aside to take a pulse on the current state of the Bitcoin world.

In this Chat, we debate whether the classic four-year cycle is dead, or if we are simply stuck in the bargaining phase of grief where the world tries to fit old fiat models onto new money. We then discuss whether stablecoins constitute a necessary bridge - like methadone for a fiat junkie - or if they are just delaying the inevitable. Giacomo also breaks down his new Cypher Tank initiative and why he is funding the next generation of cypherpunk projects. At last, we pivot to the creeping dangers of the surveillance state and why KYC is fundamentally a regression to pre-civilization barter systems.

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Giacomo's Website (Link: https://www.giacomozucco.com/)

Plan B Network Website (Link: https://planb.network/)

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I'm joined by Steve, Mechanic, and Jeff for yet another Roundtable episode, and honestly, the digital world is getting weirder by the minute. Are we even talking to real people online anymore, or just AI voice clones trying to steal our seed phrases? 

We dive into the wild new wave of AI scams, the undeniable reality of the dead internet theory, and how AI coding tools might be the real reason Jack Dorsey just slashed Block's workforce in half. Of course, we also get into the thick of the quiet civil war happening right now in Bitcoin over BIP 110. Is this soft fork a vital stand against spam and network bloat, or is it a rushed experiment that could cause more chaos than it cures? Plus, we celebrate the Lightning Network quietly hitting a billion dollars in monthly volume, laugh about bartenders unplugging point-of-sale systems to charge their vapes, and question if the entire legacy system is just completely broken.

When the timeline gets this absurd, how do we navigate the fiat madness without losing our minds?

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Steve Simple Nostr (Link: https://tinyurl.com/3s6a8yn8)

Steve Simple on X (Link: https://x.com/stevesimple)

Bitcoin Mechanic Nostr (Link: https://tinyurl.com/2tm827ut)

Bitcoin Mechanic on X (Link: https://x.com/GrassFedBitcoin)

Jeff Swann Nostr (Link: https://tinyurl.com/3sjc3bcp)

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"The cypherpunk principle that 'cypherpunks write code' takes on revolutionary meaning when writing code no longer requires programming knowledge. Eric Hughes meant that political freedom comes through building systems without requesting permission, and now that building happens through natural language instruction to AI agents. You achieve sovereignty over computing through direct technical capability.

The code becomes yours in the most fundamental sense: modified by your specifications, compiled on your hardware, serving your purposes exclusively."

~ Max Hillebrand

What if every piece of software you use could be shaped entirely to your will - no bloat, no telemetry, no features you never asked for? Max Hillebrand argues that AI hasn't just changed who can code, it's changed *what code even is*. Could the combination of open source and AI agents finally destroy the vendor lock-in model for good?

Check out the original article: The Code Liberation: How AI Makes Software Infinitely Customizable by Max Hillebrand (Link: https://towardsliberty.com/articles/naddr1qvzqqqr4gupzpdlddzcx9hntfgfw28749pwpu8sw6rj39rx6jw43rdq4pd276vhuqqgrjvesxyurwctp8p3nzefevyuny53hzf6)

References from the episode

Chat_160 - A Quiet Global Resistance: The episode with Max that kicked this whole conversation off - worth listening to before or after this one. (Link: https://fountain.fm/episode/db0Y8qZkrhZpjhj2vT0D)

Towards Liberty: Max's blog and writing collection on Nostr - I'm well behind on his stuff and plan to dig back in myself. (Link: https://towardsliberty.com/articles)

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The biggest mistake Bitcoin and sovereignty-focused developers keep making is trying to sell people on why they care instead of building something people actually want to use. They don't care about decentralization, sovereignty, or peer-to-peer - they care about things that work.

Looking at the user experience tells us just how far we still need to go. Why does logging into a free service feel like a hostage negotiation? Why are captchas filling every corner of the web when bots are better at solving them than humans? Is KYC and a credit card to every single service we want to login to really the "better experience" that the future holds for us? And why in 2026, sharing and syncing files between your own devices and among friends still migraine inducing? It's time to work backward from the web we want to have, to find the tools that will get us there.

References from the episode

- Pear Drive GitHub repository (Link: https://github.com/peardrive)

- Pears, open-source P2P development stack by Holepunch (Link: https://pears.com/)

- Pubky, key-oriented web protocol for user-owned identity and data by Synonym (Link: https://pubky.app/)

- Wormhole, end-to-end encrypted file sharing tool via links (Link: https://wormhole.app/)

- RustDesk, open-source remote desktop software (Link: https://rustdesk.com/)

- Nostr, key-based identity protocol for global social networking and messaging (Link: https://nostr.org/)

- Breeze SDK with Statechains: Non-custodial Bitcoin scaling solution for onboarding Lightning payments without liquidity concerns (Link: https://breez.technology/sdk/)

- Dead Internet Theory: concept referenced regarding bot-dominated online interactions (Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory)

- BitTorrent history: its peak traffic era (~2006–2007) and lessons on peer-to-peer adoption (Link: https://www.bittorrent.org/)

- The Cold Start Problem by Andrew Chen: a book on network effects and the atomic network concept (Link: https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Start-Problem-Andrew-Chen/dp/0062969749)

- Steve Jobs' talk on starting from the user experience and working backward to the technology (Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZll3dJ2AjY)

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"The people who figure that out first won't just ship faster - they'll build things that others can't even spec, because the spec emerges last from a process that only exists in the doing of it."

~ Jesse Posner

When your AI knows your goals better than you remember them in the moment, something fundamental has shifted. This episode explores Jesse Posner's "The Secret to Vibe Coding" and the emerging art of human-AI partnership through the lens of real agentic workflows, the philosophy of naming what's happening while it's happening, and what it looks like when the spec emerges last from a process that only exists in the doing.

Check out the original article: The secret to vibe coding by Jesse Posner (Link: https://x.com/jesseposner/status/2025680970784137238)

References from the episode

The Secret to Vibe Coding by Jesse Posner: for those without an X account, the article has been reposted on Nostr by average_bitcoiner. (Link: https://primal.net/average/the-secret-to-vibe-coding-and-the-only-skill-that-matters-in-the-age-of-ai)

The Code Liberation by Max Hillebrand: the piece I mentioned as a possible follow-up Read episode - more philosophical take on the same ideas, keep an eye out for that one. (Link: https://primal.net/maxhillebrand/930187aa8c1e9a92)

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