Marketing Against The Grain

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Ep. 392

Is this the ChatGPT moment for business productivity?

Kipp Bodnar dives into why Claude Cowork represents a seminal moment in AI for business use, breaking down how it empowers non-technical users to work faster and smarter than ever. Learn more about what makes Cowork unique (local file access and true desktop integration), how AI can automate your workday (from building strategies to batch-creating assets), and why this could be the biggest AI leap for business since ChatGPT.

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Claude Cowork https://support.claude.com/en/articles/13345190-getting-started-with-cowork


Claude Code https://code.claude.com/docs/en/overview


Claude Max https://support.claude.com/en/articles/11014257-about-claude-s-max-plan-usage

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Ep. 391

Is 2026 the year of the AI backlash?

Kieran Flanagan and Kipp Bodnar dive into what the growing resentment toward AI content means for marketers and how to stand out by embracing human creativity and expertise. Learn more about why authenticity is becoming the ultimate growth strategy, how brands like Equinox are flipping AI slop into standout campaigns, and the practical steps you need to succeed in a world overwhelmed by generic, automated content.

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Grok https://grok.com/


Equinox AI Ads https://www.instagram.com/p/DTIsY5tkrSB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


Patagonia 2011 New York Times ad https://www.patagonia.com/stories/planet/activism/dont-buy-this-jacket-black-friday-and-the-new-york-times/story-18615.html

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Ep. 390

How long does it really take to make a realistic AI video ad?

Kipp and Kieran dive into a step-by-step tutorial for creating high-quality, believable AI-powered videos, even if you’re not a video expert. Learn more on how to develop a creative concept that AI tools can’t replace, the essential workflow for using Veo 3.1 and Nano Banana Pro, and why reference images are the secret to seamless video scenes. This episode breaks down the process and tips to help you master AI video creation faster and smarter.

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Veo 3.1 https://deepmind.google/models/veo/


Nano Banana Pro https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/


ElevenLabs https://elevenlabs.io/


Figma https://www.figma.com/


CapCut https://www.capcut.com/

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Ep. 389

What are the five AI skills every marketer needs to win in 2026?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the top five AI launches and must-have skills transforming marketing in 2026, breaking down what matters amid an overwhelming wave of new technology. Learn more on using Gemini 3 for content remixing and competitive intelligence, mastering next-level image and video creation with cutting-edge models like Nano Banana Pro and Veo 3.1, and the critical importance of automation, agentic workflows, and vibe coding to unlock 10x marketing scale.

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Gemini 3 https://gemini.google.com/app


Claude Opus 4.5 http://anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5


Nano Banana Pro https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/


Veo 3.1 https://deepmind.google/models/veo/


Sora 2 https://openart.ai/video/i2v/sora-v2

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We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

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Ep. 388

Did you know that deep domain expertise—not just engineering chops—is now the critical skill for building powerful AI workflows? 

Kipp and Tina Huang, data scientist and YouTuber, dive into how anyone can use tools like ChatGPT and n8n to stop customers from leaving by automating and personalizing your workflows for true impact. Learn more on identifying the right problems to automate, the essential components of building AI-powered agents, and the cultural and organizational strategies to actually get your team on board and drive change.

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Tina Huang https://www.youtube.com/@TinaHuang1


n8n https://n8n.io/


Gemini 3 https://gemini.google.com/app


Gumloop https://www.gumloop.com/

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We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

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