Learning from the mighty matriarchs of the animal kingdom
Erna Walraven was one of the first female zookeepers to work at Sydney's Taronga Zoo in the 1980s. Despite practical jokes from her male colleagues, like animal dung in her gumboots, Erna kept her nerve.She was born in The Netherlands, to parents who were involved in the Dutch resistance during World War II.Erna's love of languages took her to Spain, where she lived for many years with her widowed sister and young nephew.It was there she met a penniless Australian backpacker and fell in love, starting Erna on the path to the rest of her life.Erna's memoir Hear Me Roar is published by Affirm Press.This episode was produced by Alice Moldovan. The executive producer of Conversations is Nicola Harrison. This interview was presented by Sarah Kanowski.
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Mawunyo's life in love, journalism and hip hop
Mawunyo Gbogbo was raised as a church-going African Australian girl in the sleepy mining town of Muswellbrook, before she grew up to become a hip-hop journalist and a writer (R)Mawunyo's parents had met in Ghana, migrating to Australia when she was a baby.At high school, Mawunyo fell hard for a charismatic boy, and for the first time, she was introduced to hip hop music.When she was offered a chance to further her budding media career in New York City at the Bible of hip hop, The Source magazine, she grabbed it.But while her time in New York was thrilling, it also threatened to derail her dreams.This episode of Conversations explores Biggie, Tupac, hip hop, rappers, Eminem, Kanye, music, addiction, African diaspora, regional NSW, religion, God, faith, love, migrant communities, relationships, first love.Hip Hop and Hymns is published by Penguin. The book has has been optioned by Tony Briggs, who created and wrote The SapphiresShe is now working on her next book, a novel about a psychiatrist who is more unhinged than his patients.
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Inside the mind of a dog, and a pig named Habib
Luke Hura has an innate ability to understand and communicate with animals, and for decades he's been training them for film, television and the stage.You’ve probably seen one of Luke's dogs in action — he trained Bouncer, the labrador from Neighbours, the kelpie from the film Red Dog, and the maremma who starred in Oddball.Luke has trained cats, chickens and even earned the trust of a big, black pig with tusks, whom he says was a dream to work with.Training takes patience, discipline, and endless repetition but Luke says building trust and being able to understand body language, energy and emotions is the most important.This episode of Conversations explores dog training, how to train dogs, Muster Dogs, how to train cats, dog behaviourist, pets, animals, vets, stage dogs, acting, Red Dog, neighbours, the television industry, working with animals.Luke and his groodles are currently performing in the musical Annie, which is touring Australia this year. You can find out more about the production online.
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Encore: The case of the unknown sailor
In 2007, Jeremy Austin was asked by the Royal Australian Navy to help them identify the remains of an unknown sailor from World War II. Using the best forensic DNA technology, he embarked on a quest to figure out who this man was and to track down his surviving descendants.This episode of Conversations explores DNA science, world war 2, Australian navy, history, technology, family history, HMAS Sydney, genealogy, unidentified remains
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Adam Liaw’s longing for food
The Masterchef graduate shares what he learned from his grandmother, who won the lottery in Malaysia when she was a 25-year-old widow with three children to care for.After Adam's parents met and married, the family emigrated to Australia when Adam was three-years-old.He and his brother sped through school in Adelaide and Adam went on to become a lawyer.In 2010, he won the second season of Masterchef with Peter Gilmore's delicate Snow Egg, and he has been travelling the world ever since, spreading love for the five different tastes.This episode was produced by Alice Moldovan. The executive producer is Nicola Harrison and it was presented by Richard Fidler.Watch The Cook Up with Adam Liaw, Adam’s Dateline episode on the new Changi Prison, and Destination Flavour: Singapore all on SBS.This episode of Conversations focuses on Adam Liaw, cook books, epic life story, family dynamics, Peranakan food, cooking, food, recipes, Malaysia, Singapore, winning the lottery, The Cook Up, Dateline, Masterchef, Changi Prison, reflection, history and Hainanese Chicken rice.
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