Mostly Technical

Ian and Aaron discuss Ian's struggles with Stripe, Caleb's breaking news about Flux for React, Fable 5.2, and more.
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(00:00) - Stripe Is The Worst

(13:55) - Token Burner 3000

(22:34) - Kindergarten Campout

(34:10) - Big Laravel Day

(44:11) - Flux for React

(01:05:22) - AI At The Ballot Box

Links:Stripe Connect
Fable 5.2
Possum Kingdom Lake
Vuori Joggers
Away Suitcase
Caleb’s tweet about Flux for React
Wes Bos
Kent C. Dodds
PartyKit
Dillon Mulroy
Kelsey Hightower
Vicent Martí

Ian and Aaron discuss a short-lived Laravel New, Aaron's first onsite with the marketing team, a successful trip to Philly, the seemingly inevitable security apocalypse, and more.
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(00:00) - Ian's Laravel New didn't last

(24:13) - Laravel Offsite

(35:06) - Everybody's Orbin'

(42:13) - Got The Cash

(50:07) - Follow Up - Are People Actually Replacing SaaS?

(58:18) - Are Companies Rational Economic Actors?

(01:06:26) - Operation Batten Down The Hatches

(01:18:07) - Outro! Dot FM!

Links:Obsidian
Claude Duet
Firecrawl
Terry Black’s Barbecue
Joe T. Garcia’s
Mafia (party game)
Catan
Ghostty
Amp Orbs
Solo
PHP×Philly
Mary Perry
Eff
1-900-Ice-Cream
Less Annoying CRM
Startup to Last
North Korea linked to $6.3B Binance hack
Outro

Ian and Aaron talk about Aaron's talk at Resend Forward, Ian's trip to the World Series, the PHPocalypse, Ian's dream job, and so much more.
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(00:00) - Hello Brewers Man

(09:56) - Aaron's Trip to SF

(28:18) - Ian's Dream Job

(40:21) - Inside Baseball

(43:16) - The PHPocolypse

(01:00:17) - Indie Hacker Brainworm

(01:03:21) - Found Money

(01:14:22) - An Update on Aaron's Book

(01:34:39) - Marketing Offsite

Links:Brewers go up 2-0 in the World Series
Sal Frelick
Laravel Founders Panel at Accel
Resend Forward
Aaron’s talk at Resend Forward
Laravel Cloud
Accel
The Atlantic: “If Anything Happens to This Guy … Everyone Is Screwed”
stealmybitcoin.com
Brotli CVE-2026-111497
Ruby’s level 10 CVE
Aaron’s bound book
Fire & Blood by George R. R. Martin

Ian and Aaron talk about Laravel New'ing....again....and what that means for Outro, plus huge updates coming to Solo, Aaron's generative universe, and more.
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(00:00) - Ian's Still Sick

(03:59) - Laravel New?

(19:49) - Pricing for Outro 2.0

(30:38) - More on Outro 2.0

(37:38) - Solo on Linux

(42:54) - Headless Solo

(50:15) - GUI Chats?

(58:57) - Aaron's Generative Universe

(01:23:20) - OpenCode Was Hacked

Links:Ian’s tweet about laravel new
Token Town
Outro
Solo
OpenCode getting hacked
Daybreak Blue
YubiKey

Ian and Aaron discuss Ian's trip to NYC to see the Amp crew, Aaron's weekend getaway, fighting online with Jesse Bentley, and craziest of all - should Ian 'Laravel New' Outro?
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(00:00) - Rocks In The Stream

(16:15) - Orbin In Person

(24:54) - Aaron's First Internet Business

(40:42) - Giant Buttons

(43:49) - Jesse & Ian Are Fighting

(52:54) - Operation Double

(01:05:23) - 'Laravel New' Outro?

(01:11:18) - Resets

Links:Broken Bow, Oklahoma
Amp & Orbs
Ian’s Orbin shirt
Daybreak
Thesis: 2027 (Every)
acct229.com
acct2031.com
Laravel Cloud CLI
Jesse’s tweet on pricing
Jason Cohen’s video on raising prices
Antoine’s tweet on Fernand cancellations
HelpSpot