Episode 63: Will Anyone Ever Start to Collect These?
While independents, Daytonas, and PCCs return to new highs, Erik & Max turn their attention to unusual corners of watches that aren’t aggressively collected today. As long as they’re rare, well studied, interesting, and beautiful, they’re in the running this week. Plus a two-in-one Only Wrist. Links Mentioned:Questionable Cloche (last image):https://www.phillips.com/detail/cartier/214804Lange Grand Comp Pocket Watch:https://www.phillips.com/detail/a.-lange-&-söhne/217289Charlie’s Guide to the 1018:https://www.strictlyvintagewatches.com/the-rolex-oyster-perpetual-reference-1018Bubbleback:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-rolex-bubbleback-and-why-it-still-mattersPolerouter Guides:https://universalgenevepolerouter.com/articles/Rolex Veriflat:https://www.unpolishedwatches.com/p/the-rolex-veriflat-and-why-its-a6305 Datejust:https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080322/159Les Historiques Worth Knowing:43045 1921 QP:https://www.phillips.com/detail/vacheron-constantin/CH080217/10949005:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/specially-made-for-asprey-smooth-black-dial-49005-vacheron-constantin-perpetual-calendar-chronograph47151:https://ineichen.com/auctions/special-9/10/47111:https://ineichen.com/auctions/special-9/10/49002 (4072-Inspired Plus Date):https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/49002-vacheron-constantin-les-historiques-chronograph-in-pt47052:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/49002-vacheron-constantin-les-historiques-chronograph-in-pt43032:https://hairspring.com/products/43032-perpetual-calendar-skeleton-platinumSigned Heuer Examples:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/found-vintage-heuer-carrera-car-and-driverhttps://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/shelby-cobra-dial-3147n-heuer-carrera-dato-12https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2024/fine-watches-9/reference-3647-carrera-sunray-dx-a-stainless-steel116509 Sodalite:https://www.thewatchbarn.com/shop/p/rolex-daytona-rare-stone-sodalite-arabic-dial-watch-116509-w010069PLM 701.001 and Its Family:https://langepedia.com/a-lange-sohne-1815/lange-tourbillon-pour-le-merite/Salmon PLM:https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2011/important-watches/lot.34.htmlNeo Minerva:https://www.acollectedman.com/products/minerva-chronograph-white-gold (Knurled One)https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/copper-salmon-pulsations-minerva-1858-monopusher-in-steelhttps://www.phillips.com/detail/minerva/CH080221/96True Vintage Minerva:https://www.phillips.com/detail/minerva/CH080218/52Blancpain QP:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/5495-blancpain-villeret-perpetual-in-platinumUnusual Midas:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/lapis-lazuli-dial-4316-rolex-king-midas-cellinihttps://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/HK080319/9311530: https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/1530-rolex-oyster-perpetual-date-4Only Wrist:AP DD:https://hairspring.com/products/25573ba-tiffany-co-dial-day-date-yellow-goldhttps://hairspring.com/products/25594st-royal-oak-day-date-moonphase-steel570:https://www.phillips.com/detail/patek-philippe/198629
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Episode 62: Daytona, An Introduction
This episode covers all you need to know to begin speaking Daytona. No more needs to be said. Links Mentioned:Pre-Daytona:3346 Zerographe:https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080016/364113 Split:https://www.phillips.com/article/47875238/comparing-two-rolex-reference-4113-of-the-twelve-made-14537:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/4537-rolex-chronograph5034: https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080220/503525:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/monoblocco-3525-rolex-chronographhttps://www.hodinkee.com/articles/a-vintage-rolex-reference-3525-telling-a-beautiful-but-tragic-story6034 Pre-Daytona:https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080122/2216234 Pre-Daytona:https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080122/1926238 Pre-Daytona:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/black-galvanic-dial-6238-rolex-pre-daytona-chronographA Fantastic Chronology of Pre-Daytona:https://goldammer.me/blogs/articles/reference-guide-vintage-rolex-pre-daytona—— And we Begin Daytona, We Have to Link the Reference Points:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/understanding-the-rolex-non-paul-newman-daytonaThe OG Le Mans Ad in In this Article:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/up-close-and-personal-with-the-2023-rolex-le-mans-daytona-ref-126529lnA Great 6239:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/paul-newman-6239-rolex-daytona6240 with Millerighe Pushers, the First Oyster Pusher:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/small-floating-dial-6240-rolex-daytonaThis Guide has a Pretty Sound Pusher Study:https://www.41watch.com/en/journal/historical-reviews-of-iconic-watches/retrospective-complete-de-la-rolex-daytona6241:https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080121/1996262 & 6264:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/6262-rolex-daytonahttps://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/lemon-paul-newman-6264-rolex-daytona-26263 & 6265:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/tropical-dial-6265-rolex-daytonahttps://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/big-red-6263-rolex-daytonaThe 6269 & 6270 that ‘Don’t Count’:https://amsterdamvintagewatches.com/shop/rolex-daytona-6269/https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/rolex-daytona-reference-6270Our Manual Favorite Dials:The Seminal Double Swiss Underline 6239 Article:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-first-rolex-daytona-by-benjamin-clymerJPS:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/jps-paul-newman-6239-rolex-daytonaSolo 6240:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/solo-dial-6240-rolex-daytonaThe Questionables:Qaboos 6263:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/qaboos-6263-rolex-daytonaThe Unicorn:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/white-gold-rolex-daytona-6265-unicorn-phillips-auctionAnd the Unicorn Controversy:https://perezcope.com/2022/12/31/rolex-daytona-6265-the-unicorn-frankenstein-plot/Neanderthal:https://perezcope.com/2022/11/03/rolex-daytona-6240-paul-newman-neanderthal-a-myth-goes-extinct/Yacht-Master 6264:https://www.rolexmagazine.com/2008/06/ultra-rare-prototype-yachtmaster.html#gsc.tab=0—— Automatic Daytona:Floating 16520:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/porcelain-floating-cosmograph-16528-rolex-daytonaPatrizzi:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/16520-patrizzi-rolex-daytonaFour-Liner:https://bulangandsons.com/blogs/watch-talks/spot-on-the-rolex-daytona-16520-mk2-four-linerIntro of the 116520:Panna 116520:https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080424/194Ceramic Daytona:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-new-rolex-daytona-now-with-black-cerachrom-bezelNew Ceramic Daytona:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-new-rolex-daytonaLe Mans:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/126529ln-rolex-le-mans-daytonaTiffany Zenith Daytona:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/tiffany-signed-16520-zenith-daytona—— Only Wrist:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-a-lange-and-sohne-1815-gets-a-34mm-casehttps://www.chopard.com/en-us/watch/161954-9001.html
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Episode 61: Winners & Blunders (and Alternatives)
It’s not just a Watches & Wonders retrospective this week, as Erik & Max attempt to also choose a superior vintage alternative in the same vein to each new release. There are roasts, reasonable critiques, and some unexpected loves in this year’s releases. This week’s episode covers the Land-Dweller, Calatrava, Lange Repeaters, and so much. Plus, Journe goes Geländewagen. Links Mentioned:NSO Bye-Bye:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/breaking-news-cartier-nso-programTank à Guichets:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/hands-on-cartier-tank-a-guichet-2025Alternates:https://www.acollectedman.com/products/vacheron-constantin-jumping-hours-43040Alan Keating De Bethune (only capture I could find was on Reddit):https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/1d4to4p/identify_watch_worn_here_by_alan_keating_from/Land Dweller:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/hands-on-rolex-land-dweller1530:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/1530-rolex-oyster-perpetual-date-4Alternates:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/tropical-14790st-audemars-piguet-royal-oak-2https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/beyer-signed-3212-iwc-yacht-club-ii-jumbo-automatichttps://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/1830-iwc-golf-club-sl1908 Settimo Bracelet:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-rolex-perpetual-1908-in-yellow-gold-on-braceletCeramic Dials:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-rolex-gmt-master-ii-left-hand-in-white-gold-with-green-dialTiger Iron:https://www.ablogtowatch.com/hands-on-rolex-gmt-master-ii-126715chnr-tiger-iron-watch/Reverso:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/jaeger-lecoultre-updates-the-reverso-tribute-duoface-and-monoface-small-secondsGreat Wave:https://www.woohootime.com/#/watches/5266196P:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-patek-philippe-6196p-the-best-calatrava-in-a-generationAlternates:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/2526-patek-philippe-calatrava-white-goldhttps://www.windvintage.com/patek-philippe-reference-2509-unpolished-w/-extracthttps://www.hodinkee.com/articles/hands-on-patek-philippe-6159gOdysseus:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-a-lange-and-sohne-odysseus-in-so-much-honeygoldAlternates:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/3800-1j-yellow-gold-patek-philippe-nautilusQP Repeater:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-a-lange-and-sohne-minute-repeater-perpetual-live-pictures-thoughts-and-comparisonshttps://hairspring.com/products/330-039-saxonia-annual-calendar-u-s-boutique-white-goldG-Wagen Journe:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/hands-on-fp-journe-chronometre-furtifOnly Wrist:https://hairspring.com/products/9240-ingenieur-perpetual-calendar-jumbo-yellow-goldhttps://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/3057-breguet-classique-perpetual-calendarhttps://www.gphg.org/en/watches/big-pilots-watch-perpetual-calendar-top-gun-edition-mojave-deserthttps://www.hodinkee.com/articles/introducing-chopard-luc-quattro-2025
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Episode 60: Contrarianisms
Chances are, you won’t agree with the ideas we’re discussing this week. And that’s the whole point. This week, Erik & Max ask, ‘What do you believe that almost no on else in watches seems to?” Discussion leads to the Fast & Furious, Triple Calendars, Dufour, Lange QPs, and Instagram. Plus, what should a very successful furniture maker wear? Links Mentioned:LUC XPS:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/chopard-brings-a-touch-of-heritage-to-the-luc-xps-with-a-new-forest-green-sector-dialBreguet Guide by Tahoma:https://www.tahomawatches.com/read/collectors-guide-to-early-breguetWellendorff Breguet:https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2019/dubai-watches-db1901/lot.110.htmlProfane Watches:https://www.rescapement.com/blog/three-times-using-the-f-word-made-for-a-great-fing-watchF&F Family (I couldn’t find Max’s Rolex):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQuc7wfO16Q25447 Carrera:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/2547s-heuer-carrera-12-datoOris pointer:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/oris-brings-back-the-bronze-for-its-latest-pointer-date-limited-edition5726 (Max’s Fav):https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/5726a-patek-philippe-annual-calendar3712:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/5726a-patek-philippe-annual-calendarDufour Backlash:https://www.instagram.com/p/CuHdd-XrBAK/345.056:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/salmon-dial-345-056-a-lange-sohne-lange-1-perpetual-calendar310.225:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/310-225-a-lange-sohne-langematik-perpetual-wellendorff-braceletOnly Wrist:https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/watches-online-geneva-edit/audemars-piguet-yellow-gold-perpetual-calendar-moon-phases-square-282/167335https://www.phillips.com/detail/patek-philippe/CH080117/34https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/walser-wald-dial-591-patek-philippe-chronograph-pink-goldhttps://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/1579-spider-lug-patek-philippe-chronographhttps://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/tropical-dial-6265-rolex-daytona
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Episode 59: Faux Pas
There are small mistakes and then there is today’s topic: true faux pas. From interactions with other collectors to the way manufactures design their watches, this week is all about those social blunders. Obviously, this episode is mostly Erik & Max moaning and groaning, but there are one or two deeper points worth contemplating. In addition, the second topic at hand: if we were each to be mono-brand collectors, how would we each go about it?Links Mentioned:JPH Obituary: https://watchesbysjx.com/2025/03/obituary-jean-pierre-hagmann.htmlLange Triple Split:https://monochrome-watches.com/a-lange-sohne-triple-split-in-pink-gold-and-blue-review-specs-price/Steel Spring Bars in Precious Cases:https://www.watchprosite.com/a.-lange-and-söhne/steel-spring-bars-eroding-away-the-lug-holes-/10.1546036.15123976/Types of Guilloché:https://www.screwdowncrown.com/p/guilloche-deception-atelier-wen-revolutionGianni Agnelli:https://italianwatchspotter.com/gianni-agnellis-watch-collection-over-the-cuff/?lang=enPolerouter Window:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/204612-1-universal-geneve-polerouter-dateHome Plate:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/black-dial-7032-tudor-monte-carlo-home-plateLange 1 Perpetual:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/salmon-dial-345-056-a-lange-sohne-lange-1-perpetual-calendarType XX:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/hands-on-breguet-type-xx-type-20Going Monobrand:Max:V72:https://goldammer.me/blogs/articles/valjoux-lecoultre-us-chronograph-guideGeophysic:https://hairspring.com/blogs/finds/e168-jaeger-lecoultre-geophysicDSA History:https://www.watchprosite.com/jaeger-lecoultre/jaeger-lecoultre-tribute-to-deep-sea-alarm-full-hands-on-review-sihh-2011-/2.681148.4348178/Erik:Lange Picks:https://www.alange-soehne.com/us-en/timepieces/saxonia/datograph-perpetual-tourbillon-honeygold-lumenhttps://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-a-lange-and-sohne-odysseus-chrongraph(Correction: chronograph, not split, obvs)https://langepedia.com/a-lange-sohne-1815/lange-tourbillon-pour-le-merite/Omega:https://hairspring.com/products/2915-2-speedmaster-steelhttps://www.hodinkee.com/articles/omega-ploprof-in-depthhttps://www.phillips.com/detail/OMEGA/CH080217/182Only Wrist:4072:https://www.phillips.com/detail/vacheron-constantin/HK080422/80254178:https://www.phillips.com/detail/vacheron-constantin/CH080223/184CdV:https://www.phillips.com/detail/vacheron-constantin/NY080222/10090s QP Skeletons:https://hairspring.com/products/43032-perpetual-calendar-skeleton-platinumhttps://hairspring.com/products/25668pt-perpetual-calendar-skeleton-platinum
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