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• Staring Down Ignoble Lies: The 293rd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

  Today we discuss RFK Jr. the CDC, autism and trans activism. Kennedy revealed this week that in 2002, the CDC destroyed data that showed that children who got the MMR vaccine before 36 months of age had far higher rates of autism than did those who get the vaccine later in life. An HHS report will soon be released that ties Tylenol use during pregnancy to autism—what does this tell us about past public health advice, safety and risk? How can we all become better at pattern recognition? Florida Surgeon General Joe Ladapo is moving away from vaccine mandates for all citizens, while the governors of the three West coast states are conflating “science” with “ideology” while pining for a Covid-era-style CDC. In trans land: comedy writer Graham Linehan was arrested for saying mean things on-line, while trans-activists are not arrested when they threaten to kick and punch those who don’t believe that men can become women. We explore the mental illness of trans-deluded people, and discuss Vivian Wilson, Elon Musk’s oldest son, who thinks he’s a girl.*****Our sponsors:Timeline: Accelerate the clearing of damaged mitochondria to improve strength and endurance: Go to http://www.timeline.com/darkhorse and use code darkhorse for 10% off your order.Manukora: the most flavorful, delicious, and nutritious honey you’ll ever have. Get $25 off your starter kit at http://www.Manukora.com/DarkHorseSundays: Dog food so tasty and healthy, even husbands swear by it. Go to http://www.sundaysfordogs.com/DARKHORSE to receive 35% off your first order.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.comHeather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.comOur book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org(Thumbnail Andrew Harnik/Getty Images)*****Mentioned in this episode:RFK before Congress: https://x.com/wallstreetapes/status/1964154838830502080WSJ on Tylenol in pregnancy: https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/rfk-jr-hhs-to-link-autism-to-tylenol-use-in-pregnancy-and-folate-deficiencies-e3acbb4cWestern Health Alliance: https://apps.oregon.gov/oregon-newsroom/OR/GOV/Posts/Post/oregon-washington-and-california-form-western-health-allianceDoyle on Linehan arrest in UnHerd: https://unherd.com/2025/09/the-shameful-arrest-of-graham-linehan/Punch TERFs: https://x.com/babybeginner/status/1963504508509593772Good genetics: https://x.com/hazelappleyard_/status/1963315154277593109Vivian Wilson in NY Mag: https://www.thecut.com/article/vivian-wilson-elon-musk-daughter-2025-fall-fashion-issue-cover-story.htmlSupport the show

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• The Plot Against Kennedy: The 292nd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

  Today we discuss the dust-up at the CDC, in which RFK Jr. fires the new director, after which other CDC officials resign, and eight former directors of the CDC pen a letter to the New York Times (as does Bernie Sanders) arguing that Kennedy is a hazard to our health. This follows a reveal from months ago that industry was collaborating to get rid of Kennedy. Also: What does Trump now think of Operation Warp Speed? How has industrialization affected our health? How are the words “vaccine” and “terrorist” being used in Orwellian ways? Is Kennedy a secret eugenicist, or is he—in fact—exactly the opposite? Finally: a new article on the harms and hazards of both SARS-CoV2 and the mRNA biologics said to counter the virus.*****Our sponsors:ARMRA: Colostrum is our first food, and can help restore your health and resilience as an adult. Go to http://www.tryarmra.com/DARKHORSE to get 15% off your first order.Helix: Excellent, sleep-enhancing, American-made mattresses. Go to http://www.HelixSleep.com/DarkHorse to get 20% of all mattress orders.Sundries Farm: Extraordinary hand grown and harvested garlic from a family farm on the volcanic soils of Idaho. Go to http://www.sundriesfarm.com & enter code DarkHorse for 10% off.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.comHeather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.comOur book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org*****Mentioned in this episode:James Lyons-Weiler, on the plot to get RFK, Jr.: https://www.malone.news/p/the-plot-to-get-rfkNYT op-ed #1 from Bernie Sanders: Kennedy Must Resign: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/30/opinion/bernie-sanders-robert-f-kennedy-jr-resign-hhs.htmlNYT op-ed #2 from former CDC directors: We Ran the C.D.C.: Kennedy Is Endangering Every American’s Health: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/01/opinion/cdc-leaders-kennedy.htmlEvoLens #132: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usP2D_qGUZs CDC didn’t monitor VAERS for COVID safety signals (June 2022): https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cdc-vaers-covid-vaccine-safety/Psaki interview with Daskalakis: https://x.com/cathy2nottoday/status/1961242623944835538 Daskalakis resignation letter from CDC: https://x.com/dr_demetre/status/1960843433473376602Zywiec et al 2025. COVID-19 Injections: Harms and Damages, a Non-Exhaustive Conclusion. Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, 30(3): https://jpands.org/vol30no3/zywiec.pdfSupport the show

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• Freedom, Tyranny, and Childhood Lost: The 291st Evolutionary Lens w/ Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

  Today we discuss childhood, fitness, and self-defense; the through-line is freedom. First up: Illinois has become the first state in the Union to mandate mental health screening for children in grades 3 – 12, so that conditions from trauma to anxiety can be detected early. How mandatory will these screenings be? How confidential? What is anxiety, and why are children better off learning to experience and solve their own anxiety, than to be coddled at every turn? We argue that anxiety—like pain, and sadness—are signals from your brain and body that should be listened to rather than erased. Also: childhood is a time of exploration, of mixing reality with fantasy, and should not be a time when adults’ fantasies are imposed on children. Then: the New York Times cannot abide that anything that RFK Jr. does or says makes sense. Finally: do people have the right to defend themselves inside their own homes? Have we forgotten habeas corpus? Are the foundations of democracy coming apart at the seams? *****Our sponsors:Branch Basics: Get 15% off Branch Basics with the code DARKHORSE at https://branchbasics.com/darkhorse #branchbasicspodJolie: Beautiful showerheads that filter out the garbage without reducing water pressure. Go to http://jolieskinco.com/DarkHorse to get free shipping; free returns within 60 days.CrowdHealth: Pay for healthcare with crowdfunding instead of insurance. It’s way better. Use code DarkHorse at http://JoinCrowdHealth.com to get 1st 3 months for $99/month.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.comHeather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.comOur book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org*****  Mentioned in this episode:Governor Pritzker signs bill mandating mental health checks for schoolkids: https://news.wttw.com/2025/07/31/pritzker-signs-legislation-implement-universal-mental-health-screenings-illinois-schoolsIllinois Bill 1560: https://trackbill.com/bill/illinois-senate-bill-1560-mental-hlth-kids-beacon/2645551/NYT on the fitness challenge of Kennedy and Hegseth: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/25/style/hegseth-rfk-jr-fitness-challenge.htmlBreaking and entering report from the Kawartha Lakes Police Service: https://kawarthalakespolice.com/media-releases/media-release-august-18-2025-break-and-enter-assaultSupport the show

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• What AI Will Do to Humanity: Forrest Maready on DarkHorse

  Bret Weinstein speaks with Forrest Maready on the subject of the dual nature of AI, discussing both its potential benefits and risks, particularly in relation to human suffering, dependency, and the evolving concept of truth. Find Forrest Maready on X at http://x.com/forrestmaready and his website http://forrestmaready.com.*****Sponsors:Everyday Dose: Coffee plus collagen, mushrooms & nootropics – delicious! Get 45% off your first subscription order and also receive free gifts at http://everydaydose.com/darkhorse.Manukora: the most flavorful, delicious, and nutritious honey you’ll ever have. Get $25 off your starter kit at http://www.Manukora.com/DarkHorse*****Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.comCheck out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://www.darkhorsestore.orgTheme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.*****Mentioned in this episode (Amazon links earn a commission):The Moth in the Iron Lung: A Biography of Polio https://amzn.to/45CHqGnThe Germ In The Dairy Pail https://amzn.to/4lN2Q8rThe Reason We Kiss https://amzn.to/4g4qegAA Hunter-Gatherer's Guide to the 21st Century https://amzn.to/45XrayJ*****Timestamps:00:00:00 Exploring AI Perspectives with author Forrest Maready00:23:29 The Role of Scarcity in the Human Experience00:37:03 The Role of Pain and Pleasure in Human Experience00:48:22 Delayed Gratification and Technology00:58:47 Truth in the AI Era01:11:34 The Impact of AI on Creative Work01:26:35 The Future of Work01:37:13 The Inevitable Collapse of Complexity01:48:01 Solution: Build a Wise AISupport the show

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• Where has all the science gone? The 290th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

  Today we are all over the map. First: Elon, AI, and humanoid robots, with discussion of sex, the industrial revolution, specialization, the Pleistocene, feminism, men’s work, porn, clankers, and vaping. Obviously. Then: are there differences between moral panics and social contagions, and is the current focus on pedophilia one or both? Finally: how widespread is fraud in science? It’s not rare, and not merely the result of bad actors. Taking a game theoretic approach, authors of new research suggest that many scientists are defecting from honest scientific work for rational reasons.*****Our sponsors:Caraway: Non-toxic, beautiful, light ceramic cookware. Save $150 on a cookware set over buying individual pieces, and get 10% off your order at http://carawayhome.com/darkhorse10.Masa Chips: Delicious chips made with corn, salt, and beef tallow—nothing else—in loads of great flavors. Go to http://masachips.com/DarkHorse, use code DarkHorse, for 25% off.ARMRA Colostrum is an ancient bioactive whole food that can strengthen your immune system. Go to http://www.tryarmra.com/DARKHORSE to get 15% off your first order.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.comHeather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.comOur book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org*****Mentioned in this episode:Elon Musk and the AI fashion show: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1958254084806578534Michael Tracey on moral panics: https://x.com/mtracey/status/1958299632703795348Richardson et al 2025. The entities enabling scientific fraud at scale are large, resilient, and growing rapidly. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 122(32), p.e2420092122: https://www.pnas.org/doi/epdf/10.1073/pnas.2420092122Support the show

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