An Old Timey Podcast

By the mid-1800’s, the River Thames was essentially a massive sewer. People poured their waste into it. They also drank from it. That combination resulted in thousands of deaths. People weren’t sure what caused the deaths, but in the summer of 1858, when the temperatures rose and the water levels dropped, London stunk to high heaven.
It took a lot of money, creativity, and an incredible act of civil engineering from Sir Joseph Bazalgette to fix the Great Stink.
Remember, kids, history hoes always cite their sources! For this episode, Norm pulled from:

Ackroyd, Peter. London Under: The Secret History Beneath the Streets. Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group, 2012.
“Cesspools and Sewers: Toilets in Dirty Old London.” Yale University Press, November 19, 2014. https://yalebooks.yale.edu/2014/11/19/cesspools-and-sewers-toilets-in-dirty-old-london/.
“Cholera in Victorian London | Science Museum.” https://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/objects-and-stories/medicine/cholera-victorian-london.
Contagion - CURIOSity Digital Exhibits. “Cholera Epidemics in the 19th Century.” March 26, 2020. https://curiosity.lib.harvard.edu/contagion/feature/cholera-epidemics-in-the-19th-century.
Halliday, Stephen. The Great Stink of London: Sir Joseph Bazalgette and the Cleansing of the Victorian Metropolis. The History Press, 2020.
Historic UK. “The Victorian Workhouse.” https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Victorian-Workhouse/.
“Joseph Bazalgette | The History of London.” December 21, 2024. https://www.thehistoryoflondon.co.uk/joseph-bazalgette/.
“The Great Stink | The History of London.” January 20, 2025. https://www.thehistoryoflondon.co.uk/the-great-stink/.
The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered, dir. History and Sewage: The Great Stink of 1858. 2018. 11:44. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD7nRrSH_VE.
“The Smithsonian and the 19th Century Guano Trade: This Poop Is Crap.” May 25, 2017. https://americanhistory.si.edu/explore/stories/smithsonian-and-19th-century-guano-trade-poop-crap.
Tulchinsky, Theodore H. “John Snow, Cholera, the Broad Street Pump; Waterborne Diseases Then and Now.” Case Studies in Public Health, 2018, 77–99. https://doi.org/10.1016/B978-0-12-804571-8.00017-2.
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Prepare for battle – a cookie battle, that is! Back in the early 1900s, two brothers invented a game changing cookie. It consisted of two crisp chocolate wafers, stuck together with a vanilla cream filling. It was delicious! It was fancy! They called it… Hydrox.
Years later, Nabisco created their own knockoff version of Hydrox. They called it the Oreo. For decades, Hydrox was the undisputed king of chocolate sandwich cookies. But in time, the tables turned.
Remember, kids, history hoes always cite their sources! For this episode, Norm pulled from:

Business 2.0. “Oreos to Hydrox: Resistance Is Futile.” February 20, 2002. https://web.archive.org/web/20020220054213/http://www.business2.com/articles/mag/0,1640,4537,FF.html.
Cahn, William. Out of the Cracker Barrel: The Nabisco Story From Animal Crackers to Zuzus. Simon & Schuster, 1969.
CBC Radio. “The Best-Selling Cookie in the World Is a Copycat Brand.” January 11, 2024. https://www.cbc.ca/radio/undertheinfluence/the-best-selling-cookie-in-the-world-is-a-copycat-brand-1.7080582.
CBS, dir. Hydrox Cookies Turn 100. 2008. 03:16. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbFiS-1fhiM.
Chenab Gourmet. “Crackers Through the Ages.” November 18, 2024. https://www.chenabgourmet.com/crackers-through-the-ages-discover-the-gourmet-secrets-that-will-transform-your-snack-game/.
Elmwood Cemetery. “Jacob Loose.” https://elmwoodcemeterykc.org/resident/jacob-loose/.
Jewish Action. “Paving the Way for Women’s Leadership: The OU Women’s Branch.” June 12, 2018. https://jewishaction.com/religion/women/paving-way-womens-leadership-ou-womens-branch/.
Kansas City Journal. “JL Loose Dies in Summer Home.” September 19, 1923.
Kansas City Journal. “Loose-Wiles New Brands Now Ready For Delivery.” November 9, 1902.
Kansas City Star. “Death of Joseph S. Loose.” n.d.
Kansas City Star. “The Cracker Trust Buys Another Kansas City Plant - An Independent Combine?” May 20, 1902.
Kansas City Star. “Who’s Who in Kansas City.” December 24, 1922.
Kansas City Times. “Lock Horns With a Trust.” May 1, 1902.
Loose Mansion. “History of Loose Mansion.” https://loosemansion.com/history/.
Los Angeles Times. “Granny Goose Parent Thinks Chips Go Well With Sunshine Biscuits.” February 10, 1988. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-02-10-fi-28222-story.html.
Martin, Mackenzie. “Remember Hydrox? Kansas City Created the Original Oreo Cookie.” KCUR - Kansas City News and NPR, March 6, 2024. https://www.kcur.org/history/2024-03-06/remember-hydrox-kansas-city-created-the-original-oreo-cookie.
News-Press NOW. “Soggy Cracker House Needs Some Help.” April 15, 2008. https://www.newspressnow.com/news/soggy-cracker-house-needs-some-help/article_df129ed7-c42d-5179-b43b-7de4822332b6.html.
NPR. “Episode 652: The Hydrox Resurrection.” September 18, 2015. https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/09/18/441546748/episode-652-the-hydrox-resurrection.
NYC EATS. “Adolphus Green.” https://www.newyorkcity-eats.com/adolphus-green.
Serious Eats. “How Oreos Got Their Name: The Rise of an American Icon.” https://www.seriouseats.com/history-of-oreos-bravetart-cookbook.
The Pendergast Years. “Jacob L. and Ella C. Loose.” https://pendergastkc.org/articles/jacob-l-and-ella-c-loose.
The Springfield Daily News (The Republican). “Hydrox Advertisement.” February 2, 1926.
The Topeka Daily Capital. “Home of Sunshine Biscuit All That Name Suggests.” October 24, 1917.
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As his trial drew closer, Charles Guiteau became more delusional. He wrote demanding letters to the new president, Chester A. Arthur. He announced plans to run for president himself. He got the word out that he was looking for love — the love of a wealthy, Christian woman under 30, that is!
He wasn’t worried about what the future held. He was certain that, if he did go on trial for murder, he’d be surrounded by the country’s best criminal defense attorneys.
That didn’t happen. Instead, his long-suffering brother-in-law, Charles Scoville, stepped in. Charles Scoville was a patent attorney from Illinois. He knew he might not be able to stop the government from giving an insane man the death penalty, but he’d sure as hell try.
Remember, kids, history hoes always cite their sources! For this episode, Kristin pulled from:
The book, “Destiny of the Republic: A Tale of Madness, Medicine, and the Murder of a President,” by Candice Millard
The book, “Dark Horse: The Surprise Election and Political Murder of President James A. Garfield,” by Kenneth D. Ackerman
“Murder of a President” documentary and additional resources from PBS.org
“‘As a Matter of Fact, I Presume I Shall Live to be President’”: A Brief Biographical Sketch of Garfield’s Assassin” from the National Park Service
The Federal Judicial Center document, “United States v. Guiteau: Assassination and Insanity in Gilded Age America,” by Winston Bowman for the Federal Judicial Center
The article, “The Trial of Charles Guiteau,” by Douglas O. Linder for Famous-trials.com
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Mere minutes after the shooting, a doctor arrived on the scene. Using his ungloved, unwashed fingers, he dug into President James Garfield’s bullet wound. The doctor hoped to retrieve the bullet. That would prove a common theme in the president’s medical care. As James Garfield struggled to survive, doctors obsessed over retrieving the bullet. They subjected him to daily examinations — always with unsanitized tools and unwashed hands. Those examinations caused him tremendous suffering. They ultimately killed him.
Remember, kids, history hoes always cite their sources! For this episode, Kristin pulled from:
The book, “Destiny of the Republic: A Tale of Madness, Medicine, and the Murder of a President,” by Candice Millard
The book, “Dark Horse: The Surprise Election and Political Murder of President James A. Garfield,” by Kenneth D. Ackerman
“Murder of a President” documentary and additional resources from PBS.org
“‘As a Matter of Fact, I Presume I Shall Live to be President’”: A Brief Biographical Sketch of Garfield’s Assassin” from the National Park Service
“Assassination and Insanity in Gilded Age America,” by Winston Bowman
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Are you *really* enjoying An Old Timey Podcast? Well, calm down, history ho! You can get more of us on Patreon at patreon.com/oldtimeypodcast. At the $5 level, you’ll get a monthly bonus episode (with video!), access to our 90’s style chat room, plus the entire back catalog of bonus episodes from Kristin’s previous podcast, Let’s Go To Court.

Charles Guiteau was seething. He’d convinced himself that he deserved a political appointment. When he didn’t get one, he placed the blame squarely on President James Garfield’s shoulders.
James Garfield was a liar. A cheat. The country would be better off without him!
Over time, Charles convinced himself that God wanted him to assassinate the president. So? He bought a gun. He tracked the president’s movements. He shot the President in cold blood.
Remember, kids, history hoes always cite their sources! For this episode, Kristin pulled from:
The book, “Destiny of the Republic: A Tale of Madness, Medicine, and the Murder of a President,” by Candice Millard
The book, “Dark Horse: The Surprise Election and Political Murder of President James A. Garfield,” by Kenneth D. Ackerman
“Murder of a President” documentary and additional resources from PBS.org
“‘As a Matter of Fact, I Presume I Shall Live to be President’”: A Brief Biographical Sketch of Garfield’s Assassin” from the National Park Service
“Assassination and Insanity in Gilded Age America,” by Winston Bowman
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