Art Bell welcomes investigative journalist George Knapp and biochemist Dr. Colm Kelleher for a discussion about Utah's Skinwalker Ranch, the subject of their book, and an update on Area 51. Kelleher, who served as project manager at Robert Bigelow's National Institute for Discovery Science, describes the ranch as a hotbed of anomalous activity stretching back generations through Ute tribal oral history.
Kelleher recounts specific incidents investigated by NIDS, including an 84-pound calf found completely stripped of flesh in broad daylight just yards from the rancher's home, with no sound, tracks, or visible perpetrator. He also describes the baffling destruction of surveillance cameras by an unseen force that was caught on a second camera's feed, yet nothing appeared on the footage. Both guests explain that the phenomena seemed to possess a precognitive, sentient quality, never repeating and always staying one step ahead of investigators. Activity at the ranch has recently resumed after a period of quiet.
George Knapp reflects on his career-altering decision to report on Area 51 beginning in 1989, confirming the base remains fully operational despite reports to the contrary. The first hour features unscreened open lines with callers sharing shadow people encounters, time travel proposals, and 9/11 debate.