Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

This week, we’re releasing our 200TH EPISODE! To celebrate this milestone, we’re sharing a compilation of some of our favorite segments from previous episodes on spirituality and mysticism.

You’ll hear from Thomas and acclaimed guests with backgrounds in meditation, Buddhism, neuroscience, philosophy, poetry, and Indigenous African spirituality, including: Andrea Gibson, Bayo Akomolafe, Dr. Lisa Miller, and Jack Kornfield.

Tune in for embodied wisdom, deep expertise, and powerful personal insights on the spiritual experience of mortality, the mystical traditions of the Igbo and Yoruba people, how spirituality functions in the brain, and the transformative power of collective experiences and rituals.

01:24 - Andrea Gibson on Befriending Mortality
06:53 - Jack Kornfield on Finding Your Self on the Spiritual Path
19:20 - Thomas on Embodying Our Soul's Capacity
25:47 - Bayo Akomolafe on Bold Frontiers of Spiritual Healing
38:41 - Dr. Lisa Miller on The Science of Spiritual Awakening

✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:
👉 https://youtu.be/2MbBpz-VciU
Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET

Here are the links to watch or listen to the full episodes that these clips were taken from:
🎬 Segment 1 features acclaimed poet Andrea Gibson from the episode Befriending Mortality 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/andrea-gibson-befriending-mortality/
🎬 Segment 2 features meditation expert and author Jack Kornfield from the episode Finding Your Self on the Spiritual Path 👉https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/jack-kornfield-finding-your-self-on-the-spiritual-path/
🎬 Segment 3 features Thomas from the episode Embodying Our Soul’s Capacity 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/embodying-our-souls-capacity/
🎬 Segment 4 features scholar and philosopher Bayo Akomolafe from the episode Bold Frontiers of Spiritual Healing 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/bayo-akomolafe-phd-bold-frontiers-of-spiritual-healing/
🎬 Segment 5 features psychologist and author Dr. Lisa Miller from the episode The Science of Spiritual Awakening 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/dr-lisa-miller-the-science-of-spiritual-awakening/

Join Thomas this month for a new 7-Day Journey: ✨ Unlocking Your Purpose: Deepen Your Connection to your Innermost Calling ✨

Through 7 days of teachings, meditations, and practices led by Thomas, you'll discover your life's purpose as a mystical, emergent, and ongoing dialogue between your inner creative spark and the needs of the world.

It all takes place in our membership community, The Mystic Café. Join now, and you'll get your first month of membership for just $1! Learn more and start your journey here 👉 https://mysticcafeonline.com/

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

✨ Connect with Thomas here:
Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com
Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:
👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com

Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:
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This week, Thomas sits down with journalist Matthew Green to explore the hidden effects of “shadow trauma” and what it takes to heal and repair after acting against your own ethics.

From personal missteps to moral injury to ancestral and historical trauma, we all carry the weight of transgression. But often, the shame that accompanies this holds us back from integration and healing.

Thomas and Matthew discuss how to move beyond isolation and repression to bring our vulnerabilities into safe, healing environments where we can reintegrate these fragmented shadow parts, repair relationships, and restore our connection to our true selves.

✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:
👉 https://youtu.be/WicZWDsHV34
Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET

Join Thomas this month for a new 7-Day Journey: ✨ Unlocking Your Purpose: Deepen Your Connection to your Innermost Calling ✨

Through 7 days of teachings, meditations, and practices led by Thomas, you'll discover your life's purpose as a mystical, emergent, and ongoing dialogue between your inner creative spark and the needs of the world.

It all takes place in our membership community, The Mystic Café. Join now, and you'll get your first month of membership for just $1! Learn more and start your journey here 👉 https://mysticcafeonline.com/

✨ Matthew Green is a journalist and co-host of the “What Is Collective Healing?” podcast. He worked as a correspondent for the Financial Times and Reuters, and is the author of Aftershock, a book documenting the trauma healing journeys of British veterans. He serves as global investigations editor at DeSmog and is a graduate of Thomas Hubl’s Timeless Wisdom Training. He’s the creator of the Resonant World newsletter and the co-founder of the Resonant Man initiative.

Connect with Matthew here 👉 https://matthewgreenglobal.substack.com

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

✨ Connect with Thomas here:
Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com
Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:
👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com

Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:
👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

This week, Thomas explores how the phenomenon of emergence occurs when we stop trying to escape into a "better" future and instead drop deeply into the present moment.

He posits that growth occurs when we stop treating the world as an external object and instead recognize our inherent oneness with the global ecosystem… and that this perception shift is fundamental to all forms of healing.

As Thomas says, “You are not in nature, you ARE nature.”

This teaching also touches on the trap of “spiritual superiority,” focusing on how true wisdom arises not by shunning anyone who seems less in tune, but by maturing beyond ego-driven divisions and leading, with empathy, by example.

✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:
👉 https://youtu.be/lBAzg9wc1QQ
Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET

Join Thomas this month for a new 7-Day Journey: ✨ Unlocking Your Purpose: Deepen Your Connection to your Innermost Calling ✨

Through 7 days of teachings, meditations, and practices led by Thomas, you'll discover your life's purpose as a mystical, emergent, and ongoing dialogue between your inner creative spark and the needs of the world.

It all takes place in our membership community, The Mystic Café. Join now, and you'll get your first month of membership for just $1! Learn more and start your journey here 👉 https://mysticcafeonline.com/
Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

✨ Connect with Thomas here:
Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com
Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:
👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com

Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:
👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

This week, Thomas sits down with historical trauma specialist Iya Affo for a deep conversation on how to navigate a dysregulated world and the cyclical nature of trauma healing.

They share wisdom on how to tread the non-linear path of both individual and collective healing, exploring how to peel back the layers in the healing process, how to find healing modalities that work for you, and the nuances of nervous system regulation in a divisive and propaganda-heavy political climate.

Iya also shares how grief and hardship can expand our capacity to love and offers profound hope for transforming our wounds into sources of empathy and service for others.

✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:
👉 https://youtu.be/RYyfa54xffo
Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET

Join Thomas this month for a new 7-Day Journey: ✨ Unlocking Your Purpose: Deepen Your Connection to your Innermost Calling ✨

Through 7 days of teachings, meditations, and practices led by Thomas, you'll discover your life's purpose as a mystical, emergent, and ongoing dialogue between your inner creative spark and the needs of the world.

It all takes place in our membership community, The Mystic Café. Join now, and you'll get your first month of membership for just $1! Learn more and start your journey here 👉 https://mysticcafeonline.com/

✨ Iya Affo is an international lecturer and historical trauma specialist. She serves as a member of Arizona State University’s Disparities in the Justice System Advisory Board and authored the trauma-informed curriculum for educators in Arizona and Native American schools. She’s an adjunct faculty member at the Trauma Institute International and founder of Heal Historical Trauma Culture & Wellness Academy.

Connect with Iya here 👉 https://healhistoricaltrauma.com

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

✨ Connect with Thomas here:
Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com
Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:
👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com

Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:
👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

This week, Thomas sits down with Dr. Ruth Lanius, a renowned clinical researcher and psychiatry professor, for a fascinating discussion on the neuroscience of trauma healing and the critical link between the brain’s physical balance system and our emotional safety and stability.

Dr. Lanius shares groundbreaking brain-imaging research revealing how trauma creates a profound brain-body disconnect, and explains how her "Finding Solid Ground" therapy helps highly dissociative individuals restore internal synchrony, embodiment, and self-compassion.

It’s an inspiring exploration into the science of individual and collective healing, the importance of attunement in healing relationships, and the hopeful reality that our brains and bodies can recover from trauma.

How do you find your purpose in times of turmoil, upheaval, and change? Join Thomas on Wednesday, June 3rd, to explore this topic in a free, live event: ✨ Your Karmic Blueprint:
The Key to Building a Purposeful Life. ✨

Uncover the hidden architecture shaping your life and get inspired to forge your path forward with greater clarity, groundedness, and confidence.

Sign up for free here 👉 https://mysticcafeonline.com/purpose

✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:
👉 https://youtu.be/SBoP7Gyu8lE
Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET

✨ Ruth A. Lanius, M.D., Ph.D. is a Psychiatry Professor and Harris-Woodman Chair at Western University of Canada, where she is the director of the Clinical Research Program for PTSD. Ruth is a passionate clinician scientist who endeavours to understand the first-person experience of traumatized individuals throughout treatment and how it relates to brain functioning.

Connect with Dr. Lanius here 👉 https://www.ruthlanius.com

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

✨ Connect with Thomas here:
Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com
Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:
👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com

Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:
👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9