TEJ Live at 7 & 1 Books with Jen Rogers (8) - Objective Perspective, Dragon Slaying, Escape Plans
Live shows in bookstores...we wish every episode could be recorded this way!
Today's episode is almost like 3 episodes rolled into one. We get to meet Arlene Kasselman (enneagram 7), founder of 7&1 Books. Then we get to hear from Jen Rogers (enneagram 8) and learn from her experiences in life, and then chase all of that with some Q&A with the audience.
Find 7&1 books and learn more about them by visiting sevenandonebooks.com
“If you haven’t done enneagram work, it’s hard to see value in people that see the world different than you do.” - Jen Rogers
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
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IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
Spirituality and the Enneagram
ICU Talks in Charlotte, NC
September 5-6, 2025
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/charlotte
Book Release Party for Letting Go, Finding You
The Micah Center in Dallas, TX
August 29, 2025
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/store/p/bookparty
TODAY's INTRO
40 Year Old Virgin (2005, Universal Pictures)
Black Books (s1, e1: Channel 4)
Pierre Novellie (Chris Ramsey's Stand Up Central)
The Dragon Slayer Archetype (Europos)
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1:15:52
Jen Hanson (2) - Boundaries, False Self-esteem, Forgive Yourself
Let's do some math.
2 + 2 - 7 = a great episode of The Enneagram Journey!
Enneagram 2, Jen Hanson, joins fellow 2, Suzanne Stabile on today's show, but we lost our 7 Joel for this one. Don't like the episode too much, it'll hurt his feelings.
Can you have an enneagram conversation between a couple of Twos without talking about boundaries?
The strengths of being a Two and working with children and youth.
Parenting with the struggles of social media.
Should one of Suzanne's spiritual practices be getting massages regularly?!
aaaaaaaand more
"How would we measure our value in relationships if it didn't involve our responding to every Feeling with Doing?" - SS
You can find out more about Jen and all of the good going on at Northaven by visiting www.northaven.org
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas (Registration closes May 30!)
1pres.org/kingspeaker
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
Spirituality and the Enneagram
ICU Talks in Charlotte, NC
September 5-6, 2025
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theenneagramjourney.com
suzannestabile.com
TODAY'S INTRO
Between 2 Ferns (2019, Netflix)
Pretty Woman (1990, Touchstone Pictures)
Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius (2001, Paramount)
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1:08:04
Russ Hudson (5) - Holy Ideas, Cultural Parameters, What To Hold On To
Russ Hudson is back on the show, and is going to blow your mind!
The show starts with a little catching up, so we get to hear about some of Russ' travels, and we look forward to IEA Experience 2025 that features both Russ and Suzanne!
How has the Enneagram, or our understanding of the enneagram, evolved over the years?
Russ shares their 3 rules he and Don had when writing The Wisdom of The Enneagram
We're not just talking about the 3 Centers of Intelligence today, but also the 3 Body Centers
Holy Ideas, enneagram and creativity, and more
"You can't get to the Holy Ideas if you don't get landed in your body and heart."
- RH
To learn more about everything Russ has going on, visit russhudson.com !
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas
1pres.org/kingspeaker
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM
Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:
lifeinthetrinityministry.com
theenneagramjourney.com
suzannestabile.com
TODAY'S INTRO
"Yakko's World" (Animaniacs, ep 2 - Warner Bros.)
Jerry Seinfeld while being interviewed on the red carpet by WUSA 9
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Tori Hastings (5) - Vulnerability, 2nd Shift, Engaging
Meet Tori Hastings, enneagram 5!
As promised, we are definitely not going to talk about golf, and we are going to talk about somatic therapy, what we do when we get home from our day, what Tori's life looked like over the past 30 years in Alabama, and did Suzanne make a revision to the Centers of Intelligence?
"You don't achieve balance by pushing the top (center of intelligence) down. You achieve balance by pulling the bottom up." - SS
"I don't do much of anything in real time..." - TH
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas
1pres.org/kingspeaker
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM
Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:
lifeinthetrinityministry.com
theenneagramjourney.com
suzannestabile.com
TODAY'S INTRO
South Park (Comedy Central: s14, e2)
SNL (NBC: s23, e11)
SNL (NBC: s17, e7)
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1:08:01
Katie Whitlock (3) - Deceit, Escaping to the Future, 9fold
Get your pen and paper ready, because this episode is FULL of incredible enneagram teaching from not one BUT TWO! enneagram teachers (and neither are Joel).
Katie Whitlock (3), yes, the daughter of The Enneagram Journey's own Sara Whitlock (2), joins Suzanne in this episode. Seriously, so much good wisdom in this one
Escaping to the future
What do you do when you're restless?
Balance
Doing Enneagram work, but identifying as the wrong number
Do you respond to strangers online?
Some input from Joey Schewee aka @enneagramparents
and more!
"Functional is not good enough. You should want more than functional." - KW
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas
1pres.org/kingspeaker
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM
Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:
lifeinthetrinityministry.com
theenneagramjourney.com
suzannestabile.com
TODAY'S INTRO
The Departed (2006 Warner Bros.)
Laura Addis on TEJ Podcast
F.R.I.E.N.D.S (NBC, s3 e18)
Using the wisdom of the Enneagram, and ongoing discussion and conversation, we will grow compassion for ourselves and others, as well as a better understanding for why we do what we do!