The Good, The Bad & The Rugby: Australia & New Zealand

Damian McKenzie joins us live from All Blacks camp and Marshy puts him on the spot over the fullback debate, arguing Will Jordan should be wearing the 15 jersey. D-Mac opens up on his role at fullback, the halftime messages from Razor and Barrett, Will Jordan's record-breaking hat trick, Ardie as captain, and what the All Blacks are expecting from Ireland at Eden Park.
Kieran Read and Justin Marshall also review a patchy win over Italy, vent about the TMO shambles in Wellington, dissect the Wallabies' second-half collapse against France, and lock in their picks for the weekend.
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Chapters

00:00 Intro – Where's Rabs?
00:57 Will Jordan's record strike rate
02:40 The fullback debate: Jordan or D-Mac at 15?
05:46 Who's the next All Blacks winger?
08:45 Italy review: patchy start & discipline
12:30 What's wrong with our starts?
14:40 Harvey Norman Next Gen Moment: Fraser McReight
16:28 The TMO shambles in Wellington
20:04 Damian McKenzie joins from All Blacks camp
22:54 D-Mac on the back three & his fullback role
26:13 Ardie as captain & Will Jordan's record
26:52 D-Mac on the Ireland threat & Eden Park
28:52 Debrief: what we learned from D-Mac
29:34 Ireland preview: Eden Park test
35:19 Wallabies' second-half collapse vs France
41:17 Italy v Wallabies preview
43:24 Predictions
45:50 Wrap – thanks to Harvey Norman

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Justin Marshall, Jeremy Paul and Kieran Read break down a massive test weekend: the Wallabies blowing a golden chance against Ireland, and the All Blacks outgunning France in a four-try thriller.JP pulls no punches on the Wallabies' discipline and "championship minutes," Marshy explains why Ireland's block plays are the best in the world, and the panel asks the big one: is Ardie Savea — arguably the world's best player — stuck in the wrong position?Plus: Cam Roigard's case as the best 9 on the planet, Ruben Love's fearless debut start, pod systems explained (and why France ditched them), the Tupou Vaa'i at blindside grenade, and why winning in South Africa this year means winning the World Cup next year.

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📑CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro — full house in studio02:04 The jug scull & HSOB 125th reunion04:14 Wallabies v Ireland: 35 minutes of brilliance, then what?06:04 Discipline, soft tries & defending your 2208:11 Standouts: Valetini, Jock Campbell & Josh Canham11:14 Leadership when the game plan disappears15:26 Harvey Norman Next Gen Moment: Ruben Love17:33 Cam Roigard — best halfback in the world?21:34 Jordie Barrett's laser pass & beating the northern blitz23:20 All Blacks v France: the mindset shift28:27 The Ardie Savea debate: 7 or 8?33:35 Pods vs no pods — how France carved us up39:40 France v Wallabies preview: DuPont returns45:53 Changes for Italy? The Tupou Vaa'i grenade54:40 South Africa tour: "Win there, win the World Cup"59:32 Score predictions (Marshy backs France)

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Dave Rennie's All Blacks era begins — and the boys are calling it early: Start The Hurricanes front row and throw Segna in at six.

Kieren Read and Justin Marshall break down every pick ahead of the All Blacks vs France test, while Bordeaux champion Big Ben Tameifuna joins us to reveal the players who could shock New Zealand — and opens up about the moment he "shot himself in the foot" with the All Blacks.

Then Wallaby legend Jeremy Paul drops his biggest claim yet: three tests, three wins. Plus, the ANZAC Test gets the deep dive it deserves, and we hand out score predictions across all three weekend tests.

CHAPTERS

00:00 — Intro, Harvey Norman & Will JP Survive the Live Show?00:52 — Dave Rennie's All Blacks: What's Actually Going to Change?05:48 — Start The Hurricanes: Debutantes, Segna at Six & Selection Picks11:20 — Harvey Norman Next Gen Moment: George North's Legendary Send-Off13:31 — Big Ben Tamifuna: Bordeaux's Secret Weapons Revealed16:40 — Ben's Journey: From Flaxmere to European Champion19:55 — Hurricanes vs Bordeaux — Who Actually Wins?21:15 — Jeremy Paul Joins: Wallabies Will Win Three From Three24:47 — JP's Full Wallabies Team Selection Deep Dive37:02 — The Anzac Test: A Historic Moment for Rugby43:00 — Predictions: All Blacks, Wallabies & The Springboks
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Kieran Read, Justin Marshall and Jeremy Paul dig into a Super Rugby final that finished 60–5 — and somehow never got boring. The Hurricanes' demolition of the Chiefs, the Damian McKenzie pile-on JP refuses to join, and what it all means for an All Blacks squad.

Marshy breaks down the new squad selection, the Hurricanes' nine-player takeover, the McKenzie/Bowden Barrett fullback conundrum with Will Jordan out, and why Jordie Barrett might be the best 12 in the world right now.

Plus: the Wallabies squad reaction!

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🎟️ SUNDAY SESSION — July 5th, Christchurch | Tickets link below
https://www.oldboys.co.nz/viewform/515859

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📑CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro — live show announcement, tickets at High School Old Boys
1:33 Marshall's flight cancelled — stuck in Wellington, not Fiji
1:58 High School Old Boys clubhouse — Chatham House Rules, no recording
2:41 The 1995 World Cup final story — Mertens & Bashap's club final piss-up
3:24 Super Rugby final reaction — Hurricanes 60, Chiefs 5
5:19 Where it went wrong — turnovers, ruck errors, lost gain line
6:06 The Damian McKenzie pile-on — Love vs McKenzie for the AB 10 jersey
7:35 JP's defence of McKenzie — "this is just all black territory"
9:19 Harvey Norman Next Gen Moment of the Week — Peter Lakai's work rate
11:59 Breaking down the Hurricanes' shape — why the ball gets wide so clean
16:05 Can Dave Rennie copy the Hurricanes' game plan at test level?
19:09 Wallabies squad reaction — Lukhan Salakaia-Loto omission
23:28 Angus Crichton, NRL crossovers, and Zach Lomax's case for a Wallaby chance
25:30 Crossing to Justin Marshall — "the scene of the crime"
26:20 Marshall's verdict on the final — KPIs, tempo, "worthy champions"
28:09 How the Chiefs' bodies pulled up — Jacobson, Tupaia, the injury list
30:18 Omua and Lakai — the Hurricanes' forward pack blueprint
32:54 Geordie — sorry, Jordie Barrett's case as the best 12 in the world
33:46 Nine players from one Super Rugby team — does that cause disharmony?
38:03 Kyle Preston's shock call-up and what it says about Roigard's gear change
40:37 Loose forward depth concerns — where's the genuine number 8?
42:43 The fullback crisis — Will Jordan's injury and the McKenzie/Barrett stopgap
46:34 Finn Hunt — sorry, Fine Inisi — Anganofo Mavi's contract buyout
47:56 Should Jordie Barrett play fullback instead of 12?
52:10 Why Reuben Love at 10 needs Jordie Barrett alongside him
53:45 Who missed the squad — Jamie Hannah, Samipeni Finau, Caleb Clarke
56:19 Three tests, one squad — do the All Blacks experiment or pick to win?
58:17 Closing out — France first, then the live show at Old Boys

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The Super Rugby Final is here. Kieran Read, Justin Marshall and Jeremy Paul break down everything you need to know before Saturday’s Chiefs vs Hurricanes decider in Wellington.

Kieran Read and Justin Marshall open with a no-holds-barred post-mortem on the Crusaders’ semifinal implosion — the complacency question, the Chiefs’ mental edge, and what Read would have said at halftime down 28–00.

Then it’s full focus on Saturday: is the 10 battle between Reuben Love and Damian McKenzie also the battle for the All Black jersey? Who wins the forward arm wrestle? And is JP right that the Hurricanes are simply impossible to beat?

Plus: Marshall’s never-told story about Zinzan Brooke making him feel like crying at halftime in 1995, the Luke Jacobson deep dive, a technical breakdown of the Hurricanes’ counter-ruck dominance, and JP drops a scoreline that has the boys howling.

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📑CHAPTERS

0:00 Intro — Read & Marshall on Crusaders’ semi-final collapse
1:41 Was it complacency? The psychology behind the Chiefs’ win
4:19 Do you need an instigator? Leadership under pressure
5:40 Marshall: “Richard Lowe told us he was about to smack someone”
7:05 Read: what he’d have said 28–0 down in a semifinal
7:40 Accountability vs care — the modern leadership balance
9:00 Marshall’s 1995 story — Zinzan Brooke & the halftime toilet
11:17 Mental side of the game — parallels to Chiefs vs Crusaders
14:21 What made the Chiefs so dominant in the first half?
15:37 Chiefs’ physical dominance — Jacobson, Tipuvaya, Cody Taylor
16:48 How the Chiefs read and exploited Crusaders’ defensive pictures
18:38 Damian McKenzie — class act under pressure
19:09 Luke Jacobson deep dive — what makes him elite
22:24 Harvey Norman Next Gen Moment of the Week — Innovation
24:00 Asafu Omua — All Blacks winger conversation
26:22 Hurricanes’ back three — Naholo, Carter, Morby, Barrett
28:20 Hurricanes vs Blues — what flipped at halftime?
29:24 Blues’ injury crisis — three HIAs that changed the game
31:27 The Final as an All Blacks trial — the matchups that matter
32:09 Front row battle — props with All Black selection on the line
33:30 How are the Hurricanes counter-rucking so legally and so well?
35:47 Love vs McKenzie — is this the battle for the All Black 10?
36:57 Marshall: the dying art of the 80-minute first five
38:33 Read backs Marshall — playing the full 80
39:30 Which 10 controls Saturday’s final?
40:01 Marshall: the team with the Rolls Royce forward pack wins
42:02 Read’s score prediction — Hurricanes by 10
44:30 JP joins from Australia — Waratahs, Rabs & Bernard Foley
48:03 Rabs didn’t even make the bench — Marshall was filthy
48:56 Premiership wrap — Hooper, Nikitau & the Australian back row
53:08 Super Rugby Final preview — how do you beat the Hurricanes?
53:54 JP: the hookers are the most important players in the final
55:52 How to stop Cam Roygaard — JP’s tactical plan
58:19 Marshall’s tip: tackle Roygaard above the waist
1:00:31 Back row battle — Shields, Parker & the loosies trial
1:01:48 Score predictions — JP goes 42–19 Hurricanes
1:04:38 Four finals in a row — are the Chiefs the Buffalo Bills of Super Rugby?
1:05:18 Live show — Sunday Session, July 5th, Christchurch

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