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I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein Podcast

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  • I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein Podcast

    Episode 675: Erin Ton on Chasing FKTs, Big Mountain Risk, and Learning Through Failure

    03.04.2026 | 56 min.
    Today on the podcast, I’m talking with Erin Ton. Erin is a professional mountain runner and endurance athlete who has built a remarkable life around chasing fastest known times all over the world. She has close to 200 FKTs to her name, with efforts that range from all-out sub-hour mountain pushes to 24-plus hour and multi-day adventures.

    In this conversation, Erin shares what draws her to this style of running and why she is so inspired by self-supported and unsupported efforts in the mountains. We talk about the beauty and challenge of moving through remote places alone, what it takes to prepare for these routes, and how she approaches safety, fear, and decision-making in extreme environments.

    Erin also reflects on a recent trip to South America, where she set the short-course women’s speed record on Aconcagua, the highest peak in South America. She talks about the emotional side of these big efforts too, including what it feels like when an attempt does not go to plan, why some unfinished goals still keep calling her back, and how she has learned to sit with both success and failure.

    This episode is a little different from the track, road, and marathon conversations I often have on the show, and that is exactly why I loved it. Erin’s story is full of adventure, perspective, and a deep love for wild places. I think you are going to really enjoy getting to know her.

    Topics Discussed:

    What fastest known times are and the difference between supported, self-supported, and unsupported efforts

    Why Erin is drawn to self-supported and unsupported mountain efforts

    Her recent South America trip and setting the short-course women’s speed record on Aconcagua

    The difference between the short and long Aconcagua records

    How she trains for very different kinds of FKTs, from short mountain efforts to 24-plus hour and multi-day routes

    Strength training, nutrition, sleep, and the more structured side of her preparation

    Wilderness safety, gear, and learning to move safely in big mountain environments

    Managing fear and using visualization before committing to dangerous terrain

    Beautiful places she recommends, including the Atacama Desert in Chile and the Khumbu Valley in Nepal

    Living out of a van and what that lifestyle looks like in practice

    Her unfinished pursuit of Nolan’s and what repeated attempts have taught her

    Why she is more drawn to adventure-style mountain efforts than traditional racing

    Growing up in Colorado and how leaving home made her appreciate the mountains more

    The law school path she once imagined and how running became both an outlet and a calling

    The bigger goals she has for the future, including chasing women’s speed records on the Seven Summits

    Her encouragement to get outside, explore, and experience more of the world

    Book recommendations:

    A Sand County Almanac

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    Episode 674: Lindsey Butler – From Last Seed to USA Indoor Bronze Medalist

    27.03.2026 | 55 min.
    Lindsey Butler joins the podcast after placing third in the 1500m at the USA Indoor Championships, earning a bronze medal in a stacked field behind Nikki Hiltz and Gracie Morris.

    What makes this performance even more impressive is that Lindsey came into the race as the lowest seed and didn’t even know she was in the race until just days before. She made the most of the opportunity, putting herself right in the mix and even taking the lead during the race.

    Lindsey is currently an unsponsored athlete, training in Blacksburg with her college coach at Virginia Tech while also working as an engineer.

    She’s an NCAA champion and has been on a steady rise, running multiple personal bests over the past year, including a 4:20 mile at Fifth Avenue and 4:25 at the Sir Walter Mile.

    This is a really exciting time in her career, and I think we’re going to be seeing a lot more of Lindsey moving forward.

    Topics Discussed:

    USA Indoor Championships performance

    Racing as the last seed in a national final

    Taking the lead mid-race strategy

    Missing Worlds despite podium finish

    Unsponsored athlete experience

    Pursuing a pro contract

    NIL deal with On and transition out of college

    Balancing engineering career with elite running

    Training setup in Blacksburg

    Working with coach Ben Thomas

    Post-collegiate training group (POCO)

    Late start in running after lacrosse background

    PR progression in mile and road racing

    Navigating the pro running landscape

    Future goals: Diamond League and national team contention

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    Sign up for the Marathon Project! The Marathon Project is a fast, flat race weekend in Chandler, Arizona designed to give amateur runners a pro-style marathon experience, with features like personal bottles, pace groups, indoor warmup space, and a highly supported race environment. Price increases on April 1st, so sign up now at themarathonproject.com and use the code “lindsey” (all lowercase!) for $25 off!
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    Episode 673: Kellyn Taylor on Winning the Austin Marathon, Taking Second at LA, and Starting the Fire Academy

    20.03.2026 | 38 min.
    Kellyn Taylor is back on the podcast after a huge few weeks of racing. She won the Austin Marathon in 2:33 and then turned around and ran 2:27 for second place at the LA Marathon. Kellyn called LA the hardest marathon course she has ever raced, which makes that result even more impressive.

    Kellyn is one of the most respected marathoners in the sport, with five top-10 finishes at the New York City Marathon and several close calls at the Olympic Trials. She is also a mom of four and is now stepping into a brand new chapter after being accepted into the Fire Academy, something she has dreamed about for a long time. Kellyn talks about both marathons, what this season has looked like, and what it means to keep chasing big goals in running while also preparing for a demanding new career.

    Topics

    Winning the Austin Marathon in 2:33

    Finishing second at the LA Marathon in 2:27

    Using Austin as part of the buildup to LA

    Why Kellyn says LA was the hardest marathon course she has raced

    Her history of success at the New York City Marathon

    Coming close to the podium at multiple Olympic Trials

    Motherhood and training as a mom of four

    Getting accepted into the Fire Academy

    Starting a new phase of life while still racing at a high level

    Chasing PRs and staying motivated in this season

    Thank you to our sponsors:

    Geist Half Race Series

    Go to geisthalf.com and use the code “Another26” for $10 off any race distances.

    Indy Mini Marathon

    Join me on May 2nd for the half marathon or 5k! It’s such a fun race weekend.

    Sign up for the Marathon Project! The Marathon Project is a fast, flat race weekend in Chandler, Arizona designed to give amateur runners a pro-style marathon experience, with features like personal bottles, pace groups, indoor warmup space, and a highly supported race environment. Price increases on April 1st, so sign up now at themarathonproject.com and use the code “lindsey” (all lowercase!) for $25 off!

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    Episode 672: Emily Mackay – Winning Her First National Title and Heading to World Indoors

    13.03.2026 | 55 min.
    Emily Mackay joins me on the podcast after a huge moment in her career, winning her first national title in the 3000 meters at the USATF Indoor Championships. Emily is no stranger to the world stage. She competed in the 2024 Paris Olympics and is also a World Indoor bronze medalist, but capturing her first national title was a really special milestone. In this episode we talk all about that race, what it felt like to finally get that win, and what the moment meant after years of competing at such a high level.

    Emily is sponsored by New Balance and currently trains with Union Athletics Club under coach Pete Julian. Last summer she made the move from Team New Balance Boston to Union Athletics Club, and we talk about that transition, what training has looked like in this new environment, and how the change has helped her continue to grow as an athlete.

    We also talk about what’s next as Emily prepares to compete at the World Indoor Championships in the 3000 meters in Poland. It’s always fun catching up with Emily. This is actually her fourth time on the podcast, and it’s been incredible to follow her journey over the years and see the progression in her career.

    I hope you enjoy this conversation with Emily Mackay.

    Support our sponsors!

    Previnex — I’ve been using their Muscle Health formula and I love that it combines creatine monohydrate with BCAAs and essential amino acids to support strength, recovery, and muscle maintenance. They just released a new citrus flavor that’s really refreshing, and it’s formulated to improve amino acid absorption and protein synthesis. I also take Previnex Gut & Greens every day and swear by it. Codes you can use: LINDSEYSUPERFOODS when Gut & Green is in cart; otherwise ANOTHER or LINDSEYSTRENGTH for Muscle Health at previnex.com.

    Amazfit Smartwatches – A wellness and recovery brand offering targeted supplements designed to support runners with energy, strength, and sleep. Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout!

    Sign up for the Marathon Project! The Marathon Project is a fast, flat race weekend in Chandler, Arizona designed to give amateur runners a pro-style marathon experience, with features like personal bottles, pace groups, indoor warmup space, and a highly supported race environment. Price increases on April 1st, so sign up now at themarathonproject.com and use the code “lindsey” (all lowercase!) for $25 off!

    CURE Hydration — No added sugar or dyes; electrolyte mix for adults and kids; non-GMO; FSA/HSA eligible. Use ANOTHER for 15% off at curehydration.com/another.
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    Episode 671: Shannon Rowbury and Jessica Dorrington on Postpartum Running, Injury Comebacks, and Strong as a Mother

    06.03.2026 | 58 min.
    I sat down live in Napa Valley with Shannon Rowbury and Jessica Dorrington, co-authors of the new book Strong as a Mother. We recorded this conversation at the Napa Valley Marathon expo, and it centers on what it looks like to return to running after pregnancy, rebuild after injury, and support athletes through every stage of motherhood and performance.

    Shannon is a three-time Olympian and Olympic bronze medalist in the 1500 meters. Her medal came years after the 2012 Olympic final, when multiple athletes ahead of her were later disqualified for doping. In this conversation, she reflects on that experience and the complicated reality of receiving an Olympic medal long after the race is over.

    Jessica Dorrington is a board-certified orthopedic clinical specialist and pelvic health physical therapist who works with many elite runners. She shares practical, grounded insight on postpartum recovery, pelvic health, and how athletes can safely return to running after pregnancy or injury.

    Together, Shannon and Jess talk about the inspiration behind Strong as a Mother, why better education around postpartum recovery is so needed in sport, and how runners can approach their comeback with patience, perspective, and the right support. We also talk about Shannon’s career, the emotional complexity of elite competition, and the importance of understanding the body through every phase of life.

    This episode is part of my weekend at the Napa Valley Marathon, where I had the chance to serve as race emcee and host conversations with athletes and leaders in the running community.

    Topics covered:

    Longevity in running and what helps you keep running for decades

    Why consistency matters more than any one perfect week of training

    Recovery as a key part of performance

    How training needs change as you age

    Strength training, calf strength, plyometrics, and core work for runners

    Injury setbacks and using them as opportunities to learn more about your body

    Shannon Rowbury’s femoral neck stress fracture in college and comeback to make her first Olympic team

    The role of biomechanics, leg length differences, orthotics, and maintenance work in staying healthy

    Postpartum return to running and why timelines are highly individual

    What happens to the abdominal wall and pelvic floor during pregnancy and postpartum

    Why more women are returning to elite running after having babies

    The lack of pregnancy and postpartum resources for athletes and why Strong as a Mother was written

    Pelvic floor health for runners and why it matters for both women and men

    Shannon Rowbury’s delayed Olympic bronze medal from the 2012 1500m

    Doping in sport and the emotional impact of delayed justice

    The importance of clean sport, reform, and fighting for integrity in athletics

    Mental preparation for racing, including visualization, positive cue words, breathing, and smiling

    Race-day strategies for handling hills, fueling, and staying mentally engaged late in the race

    Why menstruation is an important indicator of athlete health

    Low energy availability, RED-S, sleep, and early warning signs for high school and young female runners

    Sign up for the Marathon Project! The Marathon Project is a fast, flat race weekend in Chandler, Arizona designed to give amateur runners a pro-style marathon experience, with features like personal bottles, pace groups, indoor warmup space, and a highly supported race environment. Price increases on April 1st, so sign up now at themarathonproject.com and use the code “lindsey” (all lowercase!) for $25 off!

    Lagoon Sleep — If you’re ready to upgrade your sleep, Lagoon pillows are truly a game changer. Their customizable pillows are designed to help you fall asleep faster, stay cool, and wake up without neck or shoulder pain. You can adjust the fill to make it perfect for you. Save 15% by going to https://lagoonsleep.com/lindsey and using the code LINDSEY at checkout.

    CURE Hydration — No added sugar or dyes; electrolyte mix for adults and kids; non-GMO; FSA/HSA eligible. Use ANOTHER for 15% off at curehydration.com/another.

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