I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein Podcast

Rachel Smith returns to the podcast fresh off a standout performance at the B.A.A. 5K, where she finished second overall and was the first American woman across the line. A 2020 Olympian in the 5,000m, Rachel is now navigating a new season of life as both a professional runner and a mom of two young daughters.

In this conversation, Rachel shares how her relationship with running has evolved, what it looks like to balance elite training with motherhood, and why she’s been drawn toward road racing in this chapter of her career. She reflects on shifting priorities, redefining success, and what’s next as she considers stepping up to the marathon distance.

Rachel also opens up about the realities of training in a different season of life, the importance of community in Flagstaff, and how she’s approaching racing with a fresh perspective. It’s a thoughtful, honest look at growth, identity, and staying connected to the sport in a way that feels meaningful.

What we talked about:

Returning to racing and B.A.A. 5K performance

Growing up around the Boston Marathon and its significance

Learning how to race on the roads vs. track racing

Transitioning from track to road racing

Becoming a mother and shifting life priorities

Training and competing while raising two young kids

Redefining success and not comparing to past versions of herself

Considering a marathon debut and learning fueling strategies

Life in Flagstaff and the professional running community

Family, relationships, and what matters most beyond running

Interest in trail running and ultramarathons

Perspective on long-term career fulfillment and curiosity in sport

Media Mentioned: 

For the Love of the Grind by Sara Hall

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My friend and fellow podcast host Ally Brettnacher and I discuss the upcoming weekend in Indianapolis – the 500 Festival Indy Mini weekend!! This is the 50th running of the Indy Mini & home of the USATF 5K champs for the second year in a row!



We are hosting a live podcast event on Friday, May 1st at 3:30pm at Bottleworks Hotel with guest panelists Emma Grace Hurley and Courtney Frerichs! We’d love to have you join us if you are in town! We’ll have snacks, swag bags, great conversation and we’ll even have a shoe decorating station.

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Carrie Elwood’s performance at the Boston Marathon turned heads across the running world. In just her sixth marathon, she placed 10th overall and finished as the fourth American, running a massive personal best of 2:22 after entering the race with a 2:31 PR.

Carrie is far from an overnight success. A former standout at the University of Colorado Boulder, her career has included years of injuries, time away from the sport, and a slow, intentional rebuild back to elite competition. After stepping away from running post-college to heal physically and mentally, she gradually returned, focusing on consistency, health, and rediscovering her love for the sport. That long-term approach has paid off. Now an American record holder in the 25K and the 2025 US Cross Country Champion, Carrie has steadily built toward this breakthrough moment.

In this conversation, Carrie shares what finally clicked in Boston. From a new coaching setup with Andrew Castor and the Mammoth Track Club, to dialing in race-day fueling and learning to trust herself at the front of the race, this episode captures the full story behind a defining performance.

She reflects on racing without fear, the years of setbacks that shaped her, and what it feels like to finally have the race she knew was possible.

What we talked about:

Carrie’s breakthrough performance at the Boston Marathon

Decision to race Boston without guarantees or support

Racing mindset and staying present without checking pace

Training changes under Andrew Castor

Fixing marathon struggles through nutrition

Leaving teaching to pursue running full-time

Injury history and stepping away from the sport post-college

Rebuilding slowly and sustainably over several years

Confidence, self-belief, and racing at the front

Breakdown of the Boston race and key moments on the course

Media Mentioned:

Books:

The Hummingbird by Sandro Veronesi

The Overstory by Richard Powers

Bewilderment by Richard Powers

TV Show:

Love on the Spectrum

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Today on the podcast, I’m talking with Nathan Martin, fresh off his incredible win at the Los Angeles Marathon. This was one of the most exciting finishes we’ve seen in a long time, coming down to a dramatic lean at the line after 26.2 miles. It’s a moment you truly have to see to believe.

Nathan’s win brought a huge wave of media attention, including an appearance on the The Jennifer Hudson Show, which was so fun to watch. Beyond this breakthrough moment, Nathan has been building an impressive career for years. He holds a 2:10:45 marathon personal best and is the fastest American-born Black man in the marathon.

He placed seventh at the 2024 Olympic Trials Marathon and has also finished in the top 10 at the New York City Marathon. Nathan runs professionally for ASICS and is coached by James McCurdy. Outside of racing, he’s a high school track and cross country coach and works as a substitute teacher, all while continuing to chase big goals in the marathon.

I’m really grateful he took the time to come on the show, especially with how busy things have been for him lately. This is a fun and inspiring conversation with an athlete who is just getting started on what feels like a really exciting chapter.

What we discussed:

Adjusting to sudden media attention after LA Marathon win

Becoming the fastest American-born Black marathoner and what that means

Authenticity vs. performance on social media

Breaking down the LA Marathon finish and final sprint

Experience with major media appearances and interviews

2024 Olympic Trials marathon and racing through extreme fatigue

Mental strategies during tough marathon moments

Upbringing, family influence, and developing competitiveness

Coaching high school athletes and impact on young runners

Looking ahead to future goals, including the Olympics

Media Mentioned:

The Jennifer Hudson Show

CNN

Fox & Friends

CBS segments (social/digital features)

Big Brother

The Traitors

Ender’s Game

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Today on the podcast, I am talking with Jonathan Western, and this is a really special conversation leading into Boston Marathon weekend.

Jonathan is a 2:46 marathoner who has truly built his running journey over time. He ran his first half marathon in 2012 and his first marathon in 2014, and then really found consistency around 2017 to 2018. Since then, he has fully embraced the sport.

This will be his eighth consecutive Boston Marathon, and this year he is taking it to another level by running the Double Boston. He has completed 16 marathons and 21 ultras, and he is someone who clearly loves to challenge himself in big ways.

We talk about his life as a runner, raising an active family alongside his wife Christine, who is also running Boston this year, and how running has become such a constant in his life.

Jonathan also shares about a personal hardship he has walked through and how running has always been there for him through it. That thread really carries through this entire conversation and gives a deeper look into why he shows up the way he does.

I love talking to everyday runners, and while Jonathan may not call himself elite, celebrating your 40th birthday with a 100-mile run definitely says otherwise. He brings so much perspective, resilience, and passion to the running community, and I’m really excited for you to hear his story.

What we discussed:

Double Boston challenge (running the course twice)

Boston Marathon approach vs running for time vs experience

Marathon PR (2:46) and race breakdown at Boston

First marathon experience and early running journey

Running with his wife and family life balance

Jigger Johnson 100 attempt and embracing difficult races

Road vs trail running and seasonal training approach

Loss of his son Cooper and running through grief

Mount to Coast partnership and Double Boston support setup

Mindset: pursuing hard things and reframing failure

Media mentioned

Severance

Foo Fighters

Thank you to our sponsors:

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