I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein Podcast

Calli Hauger-Thackery and Sara Hall join Lindsey together after going 1–2 at the Houston Marathon, where they trained side by side leading into race day. Calli ran 2:24:17 for the win, and Sara finished second in 2:26:26 after a build up that was not originally supposed to include the full marathon.

They talk through the quick turnaround from their December marathons, what it takes to recover and race again, and how their shared approach to training has made the work more fun and more sustainable. The conversation also gets into the behind-the-scenes of being coached by their husbands, how they collaborate as a four-person team, and what it looks like to balance ambition with longevity, family life, and joy in the process.

Sara shares more about her upcoming memoir, For the Love of the Grind, including why she wanted to write it and the lessons she hopes athletes take from it.

Topics Discussed:

Houston Marathon recap and going 1–2 together

Back-to-back marathons and managing the recovery window

Sara’s original plan to run the half, and why she finished the full marathon

How Calli stayed composed when things got hard early in the race

Training partnership: why they are better together and how they compromise

Their husbands coaching them and how the dynamic works day to day

Strengths they bring to the group: long run strength, speed work, and racing frequency

“Loving the grind,” longevity, and Sara’s mindset shift over the years

Sara’s book For the Love of the Grind and what readers can expect

Flagstaff training life, and why they love it and hate it

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I’m so excited to welcome Laura Thweatt back to the podcast today, and we’ve got a little bonus reunion because my friend Peter Bromka joined us as well. Peter is one of my co-hosts on Relay and Road to the Trials, and when he found out Laura was coming on he asked if he could join which honestly made this conversation even more fun. Laura is someone who has been such a huge part of the running community for years. She ran professionally for over a decade, placed fifth at the 2020 Olympic Trials Marathon, and most recently stepped into a new chapter as a coach with the On Athletics Club, working alongside Dathan Ritzenhein and Kelsey Quinn. In this conversation, Laura walks us through what that transition has really been like, from the excitement of a dream opportunity to the intimidation and learning curve of stepping into a high-performance coaching role. She shares a hilarious story from her very first day on the job that involves borrowed bikes, missed splits, and trying to figure things out on the fly, and we talk honestly about identity, grief, and growth when you close one chapter and open another. Laura also shares what she’s learned working closely with athletes like Joe Klecker, Ryan Ford, and Helen Obiri, including how much happens behind the scenes to support athletes on race day and how coaching has allowed her to experience the highs and lows of the sport in a completely new way. This was one of those conversations that felt like it went by way too fast, and I’m so grateful Laura and Peter joined me for it.

Topics discussed:

Laura’s transition from professional runner to coach with On Athletics Club

How the coaching opportunity came together with Dathan Ritzenhein

Feeling intimidated and learning to trust herself in a new role

Laura’s chaotic and hilarious first day on the job

Building trust and relationships with elite athletes

Supporting athletes moving from track to roads and the marathon

Managing expectations and pressure in a very public sport

Grieving the end of a racing career while embracing a new chapter

Experiencing race-day highs and lows as a coach instead of an athlete

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Four-time Paralympian and seven-time medalist Amanda McGrory joins the podcast for a long-awaited conversation. Amanda competed at the 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2021 Paralympic Games, once held the world record in the 5,000 meters, has raced over 100 marathons, and has won major races including the New York City Marathon, London Marathon, and Grandma’s Marathon, with additional podium finishes in Boston.

Now retired from elite competition, Amanda has built an impressive second career as an on-air analyst for major marathons and championships, including coverage of the 2024 Paris Olympic and Paralympic Games. Lindsey and Amanda talk through her journey into wheelchair racing, the Paralympic moments that meant the most to her, and what it’s been like stepping into the media side of the sport and covering races live on camera.

Amanda also shares her role as Team USA Archivist and Collection Curator, offering insight into how she’s stayed deeply connected to the sport she helped shape. From early memories of discovering adaptive sports, to racing tactics and strategy, to reinvention after setbacks, this conversation highlights Amanda’s impact as both an athlete and a visible leader in Paralympic sport today.

Topics Covered:

Discovering wheelchair racing and adaptive sport at a young age

Competing in four Paralympic Games (2008–2021)

Holding the world record in the 5,000 meters

Winning major marathons and racing over 100 total marathons

Transitioning from elite athlete to broadcast analyst

Covering major marathons, the Olympic Games, and Paralympic Games on live TV

Becoming Team USA Archivist and Collection Curator

Representation and visibility in Paralympic sport

Wheelchair racing tactics, speed, and strategy

Track racing vs marathon racing in a wheelchair

The emotional highs and lows of Paralympic competition

Reinventing training, mindset, and approach after setbacks

Knowing when it was time to retire from elite competition

Staying active after retirement without training like a professional

Growth of Paralympic media coverage and fan engagement

The role of technology and equipment in wheelchair racing

Equity challenges in access to top-tier racing chairs

Balancing social media, storytelling, and personal boundaries

Saying yes to opportunities and trusting the process

Media Recommendations:

Books

A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith

Harry Potter series

TV Shows

Taskmaster

Loot

Severance

Shrinking

Ted Lasso

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Today’s episode is a special one as we officially welcome The Mother Runners to the Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network. Whitney Heins, host of the show and founder of themotherrunners.com, joins Lindsey for a relaxed, back-and-forth conversation about running, motherhood, identity, injury, coaching, and building a platform that lifts up moms who run.

Whitney shares how motherhood changed her relationship with running, the experience of feeling isolated as a new mom, and how that led her to create an online resource and community specifically for mother runners. She opens up about navigating a long injury cycle and the process of returning to the marathon to run a 2:54 in her 40s. Whitney also talks about what it’s like stepping into her own podcast after co-hosting Miles With Moms, and why storytelling matters so much in this space.

This episode is airing on both I’ll Have Another and The Mother Runners, making it the perfect way to kick off this new chapter.

About The Mother Runners Podcast:

There is truly no shortage of incredible and inspiring mother runners in the world. Every mom has such a good story—no matter how much they run, how fast, how far, or for how long—embedded in all of our journeys are chapters of strength, hope and overcoming that we all need to hear. Because when we hear each other’s stories, not only are we lifting each other up, but we are learning and growing, being inspired, and motivated. That’s why this podcasts features in-depth and fun interviews with fellow moms who run to share their stories—some names you may recognize, and some you will get to know. But all will inspire and entertain you. Thanks for being here!

Where to Find Whitney

Instagram: @themotherrunnersWebsite: themotherrunners.comPodcast: The Mother Runners (Apple, Spotify, all major platforms)

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Lindsey Hein Coaching & Training Plans

I’ve been coaching runners since 2013 and currently have space for a few one-on-one athletes. If you’re training for your first half or marathon, chasing a PR, or aiming to qualify for Boston, I take a holistic, week-by-week approach to coaching. I also offer half marathon and marathon training plans for beginner through advanced runners, designed with conservative mileage progression and simple strength and mobility work. Visit https://lindseyhein.com and use the code DECEMBER2025 to get $10 off training plans through the end of the year. If you’re interested in one-on-one coaching, email me at [email protected].

Today on the show, Sinclaire Johnson is back, and she just had herself a day at the Merrie Mile in Honolulu. She won the race, ran a 4:21 road mile, and set a new American record. This is not new territory for her either. She has set American records before, made the World Champs team this past year, and after a few tough years battling major bone injuries, she’s finally feeling strong, healthy, and ready to keep building. We talk about racing a road mile without clocks or splits, being coached by her fiance Craig, what she learned from finishing fourth at the Olympic Trials in 3:56, how cross training has helped keep her healthy, and what she is targeting in 2026 with a full indoor season and an outdoor year that looks a little different.

What we talked about:

Sinclaire’s Merrie Mile win in Honolulu and the 4:21 American record

Racing with no clocks, no splits, and a pacer plan that changed in real time

Why this fall felt different and why she feels stronger than ever right now

Being coached by her fiance Craig and what changed in her training and communication

The mental side of returning from repeated bone injuries and reframing fear

Feeling unheard in past training groups and why athlete coach communication matters

Advice for young pros choosing a coach, team, and a life outside running

Olympic Trials 2024, running 3:56 for fourth, and what she learned from it

World Champs season takeaways and learning to adjust without blame

Cross training as a core strategy and how she structures volume off her legs

Indoor season plans and what she is excited to chase next

How world rankings work and what the new “Ultimate Championships” format looks like

Favorite event order: track 1500, road mile, track mile

Life outside running: bread baking, what she is reading, and what she is watching

Last message: being your biggest advocate and trusting your intuition

Media mentioned

Book: The Remarkable Life of Irawati Karve

Show: The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives

Music artist group: RÜFÜS DU SOL

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