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Ep 269: Ex-New Age Channeler: Why I Walked Away from the New Age and Chose Jesus with Lorie Ladd
04.11.2026 | 3 godz. 18 min.This podcast is made possible by our listeners and viewers. If this show has brought you value, you can support it by becoming a member of The Way Forward, our platform designed to help you find the health and freedom community (people, practitioners, schools, farms, and more) near you. Your membership directly supports the podcast and the work we do.
Lorie Ladd, bestselling author of The Divine Design, spent decades channeling galactic beings until she invited Jesus in, and He started unraveling it all.
This conversation started with a voice message she sent me from Jesus, right after I’d spent hours on another episode weeping about Him. She had no idea. Jesus pulled her out of meditation and told her to message me right then.
I rarely talk about Jesus publicly, and for Lorie, this is the first time she’s sat down to really share what He’s been teaching her.
Lorie walks through the veil within the veil, the Nephilim, the spiritual battle, the God particle, demonic parasites tied to childhood trauma, and why dry fasting may be closer to our natural state than we realize.
You'll Learn:
[0:00] Introduction
[9:22] The urgent nudge that made Lorie’s message impossible to deny
[14:48] Why we need God beyond our own divinity
[31:28] Invoking Jesus to snap patients out of psychosis
[37:25] Playing the game without being pulled into the illusion
[54:36] Becoming needless so God pours through you
[1:03:41] When Jesus first came in through Brandy’s cancer
[1:16:36] Practical tools for coming back home to God
[1:28:12] A bite in the apple and the mark of the beast
[1:36:30] Breatharianism as being filled with the Holy Spirit
[1:51:47] The God particle they distorted our memory of
[2:09:49] Where I stand on the Bible as God’s word
[2:33:20] Demons work off consent and legal right
[2:55:03] Falling in love with the feeling of emptiness
[3:11:18] The guttural line Lorie screamed out in the bathtub
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The Blind Man Who Can... with Dr. Edith Ubuntu Chan, Dalia Burgoin & Shaun Jordan | Podcast
Coming Home: Healing the... with Dr. Zach Bush | Podcast
Christ’s Millennial Reign... with Paul Stobbs | Podcast
Dome Sweet Dome: Old World... featuring Topher Gardner | Podcast
Rethinking DNA... featuring Dr. Tom Cowan | Podcast
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Resources Mentioned:
The Nephilim Looked Like Clowns by Paul Stobbs | Book
Find more from Lorie:
Lorie Ladd | The School of Remembrance | Instagram | YouTube
The Divine Design | Book
Find more from Alec:
Alec Zeck | Instagram | X
The Way Forward | Instagram
Donate to The Way Forward here.
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Health insurance companies make more money when your premiums go up, and Andy Schoonover built a 36,000-member alternative to prove you don’t need them.
Andy Schoonover founded CrowdHealth, and his path started with a denied claim for his young daughter’s ear procedure. The bill was $8,000 for 15 minutes of work. The insurance company called it “not medically necessary”. He paid it, canceled his plan, and started paying doctors directly, only to find they charged far less than they billed through insurance.
What came next is a healthcare freedom alternative that cuts insurance out of the picture entirely. Andy explains how 80% of the ER bills CrowdHealth sees get coded at the most severe levels, how he personally got charged $5,000 for a saline bag you can buy on Amazon for $8, and what to do with the financial release form they shove at you during an ER visit.
The incentive structure is the real story here. Insurers profit when premiums climb, and hospitals need legislative approval to open in 35 states. The whole system is engineered to resist the people paying into it.
CrowdHealth members fund each other directly for home births, NICU stays, chiropractic care, and cancer treatment abroad. If you’re already outside the mainstream medical model, this is the conversation you’ve been waiting for.
You'll Learn:
[0:00] Introduction
[5:44] A death threat and a blacked-out SUV outside Andy’s house
[11:56] Certificate of need laws that block new hospitals
[23:39] I was rushed into shoulder surgery with no other options offered
[32:45] Medical bills as the leading cause of bankruptcy
[38:40] Upcoding and how ERs bill everything as life-threatening
[47:00] Fighting a medical bill and getting the hospital to back down
[52:44] The insurer that scrapped plain-language bills for being too transparent
[59:30] What CrowdHealth is and why it’s not insurance
[1:06:36] Getting alternative C-word treatments funded by the community
[1:17:14] Getting a 20% discount for being metabolically healthy
[1:26:56] Why so many members give birth outside the hospital
[1:29:13] CrowdHealth’s monthly cost and why there’s no deductible
[1:38:34] Building the Amazon for healthcare services
Find more from Andy Schoonover:
CrowdHealth | Webinar | How It Works
CrowdIQ | Website
Find more from Alec:
Alec Zeck | Instagram | X
The Way Forward | Instagram
Donate to The Way Forward here.
The Way Forward is Sponsored By:
CrowdHealth provides you with a portfolio of tools, seamlessly woven together, that creates a beautiful, low-cost healthcare solution. We help you find awesome doctors, negotiate your bills, and fund those bills through a peer-to-peer funding platform…for less. Visit joincrowdhealth.com and use code TWF for $100 off per member, per month, for your first three months!
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The Way Forward members get the $150 fee waived. Ep 267: The Man Who Sees Without Eyeballs (Live Demo) w/ Dr. Edith Ubuntu Chan, Dalia Burgoin & Shaun Jordan
26.10.2026 | 2 godz. 52 min.This podcast is made possible by our listeners and viewers. If this show has brought you value, you can support it by becoming a member of The Way Forward, our platform designed to help you find the health and freedom community (people, practitioners, schools, farms, and more) near you. Your membership directly supports the podcast and the work we do.
This blind man with no eyes can identify a card lying face down under a box.
My guests are Dr. Edith Ubuntu Chan, a Chinese medicine doctor who leads blindfold training for kids and adults; Dalia Burgoin, who teaches mindsight to sighted and blind students; and her student Shaun Jordan.
Shaun lost his sight at 4 and had his eyes replaced with prostheses at 13. He started training last October. In a double-blind study, he scored 100% across six trials of random shapes and letters, leaving the researchers in tears.
What struck me most was the first time he perceived his wife, less than a month in. She stood by a hospital window after his surgery, and he saw a split second of perfect detail. If he never sees anything that clear again, he’s content.
As Dalia puts it, you’re not learning that you can. You’re unlearning that you can’t.
Dr. Edith and Dalia credit Dalia’s daughter Lidu, a teen telepath, as the real teacher behind their work. When Dalia’s husband tested her, she started spelling the fruit he was thinking of, and he asked how to turn it off. Her answers about God, love, and the Hill are worth hearing twice.
You'll Learn:
[00:00] Introduction
[3:46] Going blind at four and the belief that dimmed Shaun’s sight
[14:38] No eyes, yet Shaun reads shapes whether they’re facing him or hidden
[28:08] The spirit beings Shaun sees look human but move wrong
[43:03] The split second of detail when Shaun first saw his wife
[53:44] Dalia on unlearning that you can’t instead of learning that you can
[1:09:59] Kids perceiving behind their heads and Dr. Edith’s take on ADHD
[1:19:48] Shaun identifies objects and a face-down card hidden under a box
[1:37:25] Releasing attachment, from Shaun’s breakthrough to my bent spoon
[1:43:00] After decades of braille, Shaun spells words on a letter board
[1:55:15] The telepathic messages from Lidu that brought Dr. Edith and Dalia together
[2:10:00] Staying in both worlds at once and the beings Lidu meets at the Hill
[2:20:33] Reading Dalia’s husband’s mind and Lidu’s instant ethics transfer
[2:37:00] The deepest questions people have asked Lidu, and her answers
Related The Way Forward Episodes:
Blindfold Vision: Panel of Parents and Pioneers | Podcast
Beyond Verbal Autists, Telepathy & The Nature Of Thought with Melissa Jolly Graves | Podcast
Find more from Dr. Edith and Dalia:
Dr. Edith Ubuntu Chan | Website
Luminous Blindfold | Website
Dalia Burgoin | Website
Find more from Alec:
Alec Zeck | Instagram | X
The Way Forward | Instagram
Donate to The Way Forward here.
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21.10.2026 | 2 godz. 17 min.This podcast is made possible by our listeners and viewers. If this show has brought you value, you can support it by becoming a member of The Way Forward, our platform designed to help you find the health and freedom community (people, practitioners, schools, farms, and more) near you. Your membership directly supports the podcast and the work we do.
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Herbs work on your biofield more than you know.
Kyle is a Wisconsin community herbalist, clinician, and the founder of Tippecanoe Herbs, Root Radical Herbal Academy, and the Resonature Podcast, teaching plant medicine from a vitalist, qualitative lens.
Most natural health schools still rely on a materialist frame that is flawed at its root. The doctrine of signatures, along with bioregional and seasonal herbalism, offers a different way of reading the plants.
Cayenne pepper mobilizes blood and stops bleeding. Kyle explains why that isn’t a contradiction but a sign of plant intelligence.
The segment I keep thinking about is his clinical practice: writing a plant’s name on paper, placing it under a crystal vessel of water, using a tuning fork, and building custom formulas for clients, including ones he works with over Zoom thousands of miles away.
Harmonic ratios live inside the veins of a leaf, and plants and humans mirror each other inversely across the seasons. Late one October, Kyle came across a stand of hawthorn and motherwort, turned it into his Grief Relief tincture that night, and learned hours later that his brother had died.
This one is for anyone who senses that healing and nature are speaking a language the lab never captured.
You'll Learn:
[0:00] Introduction
[8:50] The beingness of plants and the doctrine of signatures
[22:11] Mowing the lawn as Kyle’s favorite plant medicine ceremony
[34:21] Cayenne as the best remedy for stopping bleeding
[42:07] From Veda Austin’s water work to pulse testing a plant’s name
[48:06] Sonic Bloom and building herbal formulas for clients at a distance
[1:03:45] Form recognizes form, and how oak reveals where you leak your energy
[1:17:43] The plants are partying in the Wisconsin winter
[1:28:06] Eating seasonally applies to herbalism too
[1:37:12] Weeds that heal the soil, and the hawthorn before Kyle’s brother died
[1:46:45] Harmonic ratios hidden in the veins of a leaf
[2:00:30] Astro-herbalism and incense as a prayerful form of plant medicine
Related The Way Forward Episodes:
Thought, Light & The Liquid Language of God with Veda Austin | Podcast
Coming Home: Healing the Chronic Disease of Separation with Dr. Zach Bush | Podcast
Resources Mentioned:
The Secret Life of Plants by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird | Book
Find more from Kyle:
Resonature with Kyle Denton | Substack
Tippecanoe Herbs | Website
Find more from Alec:
Alec Zeck | Instagram | X
The Way Forward | Instagram
Donate to The Way Forward here.
The Way Forward is Sponsored By:
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New Biology Clinic: Redefine Health from the Ground Up
Experience tailored terrain-based health services with consults, livestreams, movement classes, and more. Use code THEWAYFORWARD (case-sensitive) for $50 off activation.
The Way Forward members get the $150 fee waived.
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Welcome to The Way Forward Podcast, hosted by Alec Zeck! Established in 2022, The Way Forward's mission is to educate, empower, and unite men and women from all walks of life on their journey to health, freedom, and coherence.
On our podcast, Alec engages in cutting-edge conversations with visionaries and thought leaders on life-affirming topics, including terrain-based and metaphysical health, voluntaryism and common-law, panentheist concepts, spirituality, the nature of reality, permaculture and homesteading, hidden history and more.
Driven by Alec's passion and leadership, our episodes empowers listeners to connect with their inherent divinity, natural healing capacity, and innate freedom, while dissolving societal conditioning and seeking truth, fostering a deeper sense of coherence within themselves and the world.
Stay tuned for paradigm-shifting conversations and join The Way Forward community to connect with others on the journey of health, freedom, and coherence.
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