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• 11 - Kristina Jovanovska: Good AI, Bad AI, Cancel Culture DEI & the AI Debate – What now?

  Kristina is back on 25Minutes! In this episode, we talk about how AI has changed over the past three years and what makes AI “good” or “bad” in practice. Kristina shares how companies can use AI in a responsible way and why this is more important than ever.We explore how artificial intelligence has evolved over the past three years: What makes AI helpful or harmful? How can companies use it responsibly? And what role does human decision-making still play in an AI-driven world? Kristina explains why responsible AI isn’t just a technical topic – it’s a leadership challenge that affects us all. We also dive into a topic that’s shaped many conversations in 2025: the backlash against Diversity, Equity & Inclusion (DEI) and the rise of so-called cancel culture. Kristina shares her personal view as a woman in cybersecurity and tech leadership – and why she believes diverse teams are not just “nice to have,” but essential for building better, safer solutions.  👉 Note: I was on the road while recording, so there’s a slight echo on my side. It may sound like I’m talking over Kristina in some moments – but I promise, I wasn’t! Thanks for your understanding.Important note: The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of any organization, employer or affiliation.Our Guest: LinkedIn: https://at.linkedin.com/in/kristinajovanovska25 Minutes PodcastHostey by: Eliel MulumbaAudio editing & mastering: Michael LauderezJoin conversation on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/eliel-mulumba-133919147Join conversation on X: Eliel Mulumba (@ElielCyber) / XSend us a text

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• 10 - Kristina Jovanovska: Take advice, but always tailor it to yourself. How AI is reshaping cybersecurity and managed security services

  In a world where digital threats are evolving as rapidly as the technologies designed to counter them, the intersection of cybersecurity and artificial intelligence (AI) has become a critical focus for modern enterprises. In this episode of 25Minutes, Kristina - a seasoned cybersecurity leader and Member of the Global Council for Responsible AI - shares her journey from software engineering to leading managed security services and driving global conversations around responsible AI.This episode offers insights for digital transformation, regulatory pressure and the growing need for resilience. Kristina explains why cybersecurity is no longer just an IT concern but a core business responsibility that demands strategic attention. She offers a clear-eyed perspective on the double-edged nature of AI: how it enhances threat detection and automation, while also introducing new layers of risk when misused or misunderstood.Kristina reflects on career milestones - from discovering her passion for security, to building high-performing teams, to mentoring future leaders through initiatives like Women4Cyber Austria. Her story highlights the importance of purpose-driven leadership, authenticity, and embracing complexity in order to lead with clarity and confidence. 👉 Note: I was on the road while recording, so there’s a slight echo on my side. It may sound like I’m talking over Kristina in some moments – but I promise, I wasn’t! Thanks for your understanding.Important note: The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of any organization, employer or affiliation.Our Guest: LinkedIn: https://at.linkedin.com/in/kristinajovanovska25 Minutes PodcastHostey by: Eliel MulumbaAudio editing & mastering: Michael LauderezJoin conversation on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/eliel-mulumba-133919147Send us a text

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• 9 - Adelite Uwineza Kazungu & Eliel Mulumba: Cloud smart, not just cloud first and cybersecurity moves that matter, AWS, Azure, Google, Geneva, Switzerland

  In this episode of 25Minutes, we share a special recording from the Petit Déjeuner de PME & Startup event series hosted by the Canton of Geneva in Switzerland, designed to deliver actionable insights from global organizations to startups and small to medium-sized businesses.Together with Adelite, we explore the growing strategic relevance of cloud migration and cloud security. As businesses increasingly turn to the cloud again - driven by AI-driven compute demands and the need for agility - new questions arise around risk, resilience and data sovereignty. Against the backdrop of geopolitical tensions and an evolving regulatory landscape, we discuss the renewed momentum for building European alternatives to dominant US-based cloud providers like AWS, Azure and Google.We discuss why companies are accelerating their move to the cloud, the business value they seek and the most pressing cybersecurity challenges they encounter along the way. More importantly, we highlight practical solutions and risk mitigation strategies including the role of Zero Trust Architecture in enhancing visibility, control and protection in dynamic cloud environments.Original video recording and full rights: La securite au coeur de la transition vers le cloud | Eliel Mulumba & Adelite Uwineza Kazungu, Resp: Head of Operational Technology Security -- Cyber Awareness Specialist, EY | 01.09.2023 at 09:28 | Part of Petit dejeuner des PME et Start-up Geneve - Septembre 2023 | Geneve25 Minutes PodcastHostey by: Eliel MulumbaAudio editing & mastering: Michael LauderezJoin conversation on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/eliel-mulumba-133919147Send us a text

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• (Bonus 1) - Lionel Hapi Modje: IT & Cyber in Africa - the untold story about truth, growth and grit. Hannover Messe, startups, innovation and digital penetration

  In this episode, I sit down with Lionel again to explore the evolving landscape of technology and resilience in Africa. Together, we unpack the striking differences in market value, digital growth and investment priorities when compared to Europe and the United States. Our conversation sheds light on how digital resilience is being shaped in regions where fundamental challenges like hunger and poverty still dominate policy agendas - and how digital literacy, although still uneven, is accelerating. We dive into current investment trends in more developed economies such as South Africa, the expansion of mobile broadband access and why the continent’s increasing internet user base could mark Africa as a future innovation hub.But this isn’t just a numbers-driven discussion. Lionel shares how a simple moment - eating risotto - led him to change perspective as well as the importance of perspective in cybersecurity. We also touch on a lighter but culturally rich debate: Ghanaian vs. Nigerian Jollof rice.Our Guest:Lionel LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lionel-hapi-modje-33641ba4/Lionels typical workday: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/organisation-und-informatik-stadt-z%C3%BCrich_digitaleszaesrichmitgestalten-itjobs-berufsvielfalt-activity-7290730494382489600-WG1i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAACONqncBzTmT1rca3ilVhifkpHXUs9QkM_425 Minutes PodcastHostey by: Eliel MulumbaAudio editing & mastering: Michael LauderezJoin conversation on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/eliel-mulumba-133919147Fact Checkhttps://www.statista.com/outlook/tmo/cybersecurity/africahttps://www.mordorintelligence.com/industry-reports/europe-cybersecurity-markethttps://www.fortunebusinessinsights.com/industry-reports/cyber-security-market-101165https://techafricanews.com/2024/10/31/africas-mobile-connectivity-has-the-internet-access-gap-narrowed-in-2024Send us a text

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• 8 - Qusai AlRabei: How to design and run an effective OT SOC & lessons from the field that can save millions

  What does it really take to build and operate an OT Security Operations Center (SOC)? In this episode of 25Minutes, I sit down again with Qusai - an expert with hands-on experience setting up OT SOCs, including his first major project in the Middle East. We explore the key differences between OT and IT incident response, the unique challenges of industrial environments and why traditional approaches often fall short. Qusai shares common mistakes companies still make, how to develop tailored use cases and playbooks and which parameters matter most when deciding between an OT SOC, IT SOC, or a hybrid model. If you're in cybersecurity, industrial operations or simply want to understand the nuances of securing operational technology environments, this episode is packed with actionable insights and lessons learned from the field.Important note: The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of any organization, employer or affiliation. Our Guest: LinkedIn: https://ae.linkedin.com/in/qusai-alrabei-cybersecurityhttps://www.weforum.org/stories/2023/12/why-securing-the-ot-environment-is-important/25 Minutes PodcastHostey by: Eliel MulumbaAudio editing & mastering: Michael LauderezJoin conversation on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/eliel-mulumba-133919147Send us a text

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