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• 475: At the UK's National Perry Pear Centre and the Story Behind 99PINES

  Perry making has deep roots in Gloucestershire, stretching back to the 17th century when French wine imports were cut off during the Napoleonic Wars. Local farmers turned to their own fruit, and the rich soils around Hartpury proved ideal for growing Perry pears. This episode features audio snapshots from the 2025 Totally Cider Tour stop at the National Perry Pear Centre. Our guide, Phil Kester, volunteers with 99PINES , where he helps preserve the region's rare Perry pear varieties. Phil's passion for Perry and deep local knowledge made this visit one of the tour's highlights. The Roots of the National Perry Pear Centre Charles Martell recognized that Perry orchards across Gloucestershire were disappearing and began documenting rare varieties. His work led to the first National Perry Collection at the Malvern Three Counties Showground, planted with Tom Oliver and others. Jim Chapman later expanded the effort by gifting land at Hartpury. This site is The National Perry Pear Centre and is home to over 100 Perry pear varieties from Gloucestershire and beyond. These orchards safeguard living history, connecting generations through the craft of Perry making. The 99PINES Project The name 99PINES comes from the line of pines atop nearby May Hill, often called the heart of English Perry country. Phil Kester of 99PINESS " data-medium-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/475-Phil-Kester-of-99PINES-with-bottles-of-Perry.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" data-large-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/475-Phil-Kester-of-99PINES-with-bottles-of-Perry.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" /> Phil Kester of 99PINESS Phil and the volunteers at 99PINES are working to: Create a local hub to promote Perry culture in pubs and communities. Build a tasting space featuring 80–100 Perry varieties for education and enjoyment. Keep the project sustainable by reinvesting proceeds into orchard care and heritage initiatives. The Art and Challenge of Perry Making Perry is both art and patience. The fruit can rot within days, demanding precise timing at harvest. Perry ferments differently from cider and is more sensitive to bacteria. Varieties like Blakeney Red and Hartpury Green reveal a range of tannins and textures unique to Perry. Phil experiments with bottle conditioning and Pet Nat methods, showing how diverse and expressive Perry can be. Contact info for National Perry Pear Centre and 99PINES National Perry Pear Centre Website: https://www.nationalperrypearcentre.org.uk/ 99PINES Website: https://www.nationalperrypearcentre.org.uk/99pines-perry/ Mentions in this Cider Chat April 27-May3rd 2026 Blossom Time Totally Cider Tour to the United Kingdom Edulis Restaurant – Toronto Cider House Luncheons NY Cider Fest November 15, 2026

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• 474: The Romance of It All | The Temperleys of Somerset Cider & Brandy

  At the base of Burrow Hill life moves at the pace of apples and oak. Here, Julian and daughter Matilda Temperley are testment to the value of family for carry a business such as cider and brandy forward into the next 100 years. "You have to believe in the Romance of it because you are thinking so far in advance" Matilda Temperly From orchards planted for future generations to brandy resting quietly in barrels for decades, the Temperleys embody what it means to think in centuries, not seasons. The Cider: Tradition and Terroir The mount at Burrow Hill is memorialized in ongoing instagram posts because it provides a magnificent centerpiece of endurance and beauty due to its simplicity of a lone a large sycamore tree, which has become a local landmark and symbol of the Somerset landscape. Julian Temperly began planting cider apples trees here over 50 years ago. Today there are acres of orchards in different pockets surrounding Burrow Hill. A notable 75 acre orchard that was purchased from the Showering family years ago now, is touted to be the largest standard cider apple orchard in the world. Here you find the classic Burrow Hill cider as a tannic, full-bodied, and balanced drink. The bottle-fermented Kingston Black and Stoke Red ciders are great for hang time with friends or fine dining. Every cider reflects its orchard origin, emphasizing flavor, heritage, and authenticity. Distilling Somerset's Spirit In 1989, Somerset Cider Brandy became the first licensed distiller of apple brandy in the UK since the 19th century. And they have been awarded Protected Geographical Indication (PGI) status. This status guarantees that the brandy is produced in a consistent and traditional manner within Somerset. Using unique Gazagne stills, which are continuous stills of French design, the Temperleys now have lovely range of offerings from Eau de Vie to 20-year-aged Somerset Cider Brandy. Their Pomona, is a blend of apple juice and brandy, celebrates Somerset roots. Looking Ahead The Temperly's 100-year plan focuses on replanting traditional orchards, cultivating local oak for future barrels, and sustaining multi-generational stewardship. The goal: to ensure that Burrow Hill remains a place where apples, family, and time converge into something extraordinary. Matilda Temperley in the Tasting Room at Somerset Cider & Brandy Contact info for Somerset Cider and Brandy at Burrow Hill Website: https://www.somersetciderbrandy.com Mentions in this Cider Chat 432: Ancha Gergely's Abaliget Garden Projects | Hungarian Cider Maker 431: Domaine Johanna Cécillon's Elegant Ciders | Brittany FR Totally Cider Tours - UK Cider Tour April 27th - May 3rd, 2026 French Cider Tour September 20th - 26th, 2026

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• 473: Tiny Bubbles | How to Make a Pét Nat Cider

  What makes a Pét Nat cider sparkle naturally and how is it connected to the rural method you might have heard about in the UK? In this episode, we take a practical look at: What Pét Nat cider is and how it relates to the "rural method" A clearer way to describe fermentation: Active Ferment → Quiet Phase → Maturation When and how to rack cider for clarity and flavor How to time bottling for perfect natural carbonation Using a hydrometer to bottle safely at 1.005–1.010 SG Essential tips for bottle-conditioning without blowouts Why a little yeast haze can add charm to your finished cider Key Takeaways Pét Nat (Pétillant Naturel) means naturally sparkling where the bubbles come from fermentation finishing in the bottle. Racking is a simple but essential step to move cider off the lees without introducing oxygen. Skip the jargon: watch what your cider is doing, not just the calendar. Always use champagne-rated bottles and sanitize everything. The reward? Tiny bubbles, wild aroma, and the pure joy of cider alive in the glass. Cider Making Resource Cider Maker check list √ go to https://ciderchat.com/cider-making-equipment/ Cider Books, Orchard Care, Apple Id and Children's Books Mentions in this Cider Chat Cider Making How-to Episodes: 095: Cider Making at Home easy as 1-2-3 152: How to teach Cider Making 101 381: DIY Cider Making for Beginners 382: Beginner Tips for Squeaky Clean Cider Equipment 384: Beginner Cider-Making Tips for Primary Fermentation 386: Managing Cider's Secondary Fermentation – DIY Tips Fall Event - November 1, 25th Annual Apple Harvest Fest at Albemarle CiderWorks  

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• 472: Perry to FOMO — A Cider Dinner to Remember in the Malvern Hills

  A Toast to Perry and Place Enjoy an intimate recording from the 2025 Totally Cider Tour_UK Edition. This unforgettable evening featured James Forbes of Little Pomona, leading guests through a cider dinner pairing in the Malvern Hills located on the border of Herefordshire and Worcestershire in England. James presents both a welcome Perry, Ciders and a very special aperitif. We beging with Brut Rosé Perry, crafted from perry pears co-fermented with local damsons. James shared how whole damsons are fermented via carbonic maceration to extract their rich color and flavor before being pressed with early season pears. The result: a radiant sparkling Perry with deep fruit notes and remarkable finesse. "We actually ferment the damsons whole in CO₂ and then co-press them with the first pears. It gives a whole new layer of aroma and flavor." — James Forbes A Cider for the Table Next up was a single varietal Stoke Red cider, a rarity from Little Pomona's usual blends. James described it as a "fully fermented" cider that is balanced and dry yet vibrant, with a whisper of natural sweetness from the Rural Method. This approach captures the cider before all sugars ferment out, creating harmony between acidity and fruit. Check out Wilding Episode with Sam Leach on the Rural Method "Stoke Red is one of my top three apples. In a less ripe vintage, that touch of sugar brings perfect balance." Select Cider Apples Dinner continued with Egremont Russet, a still cider with a light sparkle. The russet's golden skin and nutty depth create an almost wine-like cider. Notes of pineapple, anise, and honey appeared with each sip, echoing the richness of the food and the rustic charm of the evening. "FOMO" Caps the Night Dessert brought out a treasure: Little Pomona's "FOMO"—a playful nod to France's Pommeau. Only 192 bottles were made, combining distillate from Bramley apples and Kingston Black juice aged in chestnut barrels. It lent a sweet, amber nectar with layers of floral and plum notes, it was the perfect close to the evening. James Forbes with FOMO" data-medium-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/472-James-Forbes-with-Fomo.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" data-large-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/472-James-Forbes-with-Fomo.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" /> James Forbes with FOMO "We called it FOMO—a faux Pommeau—because you don't want to miss out on this one." The Spirit of the Malvern Hills The evening concluded with words from Deborah Fox CEO of the Malvern Hills Trust, who shared the rich history and heritage of this cherished landscape—home to ancient Perry pears, cider orchards, and centuries of cultivation. Ria Windcaller and Deborah Fox" data-medium-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Ria-and-Deborah-Fox-200x300-1.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" data-large-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Ria-and-Deborah-Fox-200x300-1.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" /> Ria Windcaller and Deborah Fox "We keep the hills unbuilt, un-encroached upon, and un-urbanized. …The Perry pear and cider have always been part of this land's story." Deborah Fox Contact info for Little Pomona Website: https://littlepomona.com Past episodes featuring Little Pomona 126: Little Pomona's Big Ciders! | Herefordshire, UK 181: The Cider Insider | 100 Craft Ciders to Drink Now 460: James Forbes on Little Pomona's Ciders & Legacy Contact info for Malvern Hills Trust Website: https://www.malvernhills.org.uk Mentions in this Cider Chat Vermont's 1000 Stone Farm – Farmers Hand Kitchen cider to watch for in 2026 Chapeau Bruin 465: The Integrated Table: Cider, Food, and Farming at 1000 Stone Farm Cider Chat Patreon 392: Bent Ladder Estate Ciders & Wine | Ohio Totally Cider Tours – France and UK

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• 471: Cider Tourism 101 | Newton Court, UK

  Newton Court Cider began as a 30-acre farm selling apples to Bulmers. When the market changed, Paul Stephens turned those same orchards into a modern day cider business. Front view of Newton Court's restaurant and visitor centre in Herefordshire, surrounded by orchards and outdoor seating." data-medium-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/471-Netown-Court.jpg?fit=300%2C200&ssl=1" data-large-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/471-Netown-Court.jpg?fit=300%2C200&ssl=1" /> Front view of Newton Court's restaurant and visitor centre in Herefordshire, surrounded by orchards and outdoor seating. His early inspiration came from Brian Shanks, the co-founder of Bold Rock Cider in Virginia. Though Bold Rock produces cider on a large, industrial scale, it was Brian's perspective as a New Zealander who admired Herefordshire's rich cider apple heritage that sparked Paul's drive to build something lasting at home. Today, the recently built out Newton Court tasting room/restaurant is booming showing that tourist and locals alike are thirsty for a full service destination. Cider Making at Newton Court It was noted by Paul that his parents open-minded approach helped the farm transistion into the cider destination that it is today. In additon, a recent collaboration with River Cottage led to the award-winning Elderflower Cider, proving that tradition and creativity can thrive together. Newton Court remains deeply rooted in sustainable farming and regional pride, helping to preserve the orchards and cider heritage of Herefordshire for future generations. Contact Info for Newton Court Website: https://www.newtoncourtcider.com Totally Cider Tours Showering – Shepton Mallet Mill horizontal tanks for cider " data-medium-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Showering-Horizontal-tanks-200x300-1.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" data-large-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Showering-Horizontal-tanks-200x300-1.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" /> Showering – Shepton Mallet Mill horizontal tanks for cider

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