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• 469: Getting Lost, So You Don’t | UK Totally Cider Tour 225 Recap

  UK Cider Tour 2025 Audio Snap Shots Wallace and Ria in Bristol" data-medium-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Ria-and-Wallace-in-Bristol.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" data-large-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Ria-and-Wallace-in-Bristol.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" /> Wallace and Ria in Bristol In this Episode 469 of Cider Chat, we brings listeners inside the UK Totally Cider Tour 2025 through the voices of the guests who joined. From Somerset, Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, to Wales guests on this tour discovered not just cider and perry, but also community, history, and inspiration. First Impressions and Highlights Many guests shared that they signed up to experience places they couldn’t access on their own. From the scale of Showering’s Cider Mill, the second largest in the country to the intimate welcome at Oliver’s, the contrast certainly left a deep impression. The discovery of Perry was a recurring theme. From Ohio travelers Chris and Megan who tasted their very first Perry on the tour, while Rodney from Virginia declared he’d be grafting Perry scions at home. Personal Connections Group Selfie with Sam Leach of Wilding Cider" data-medium-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/469-Group-selfie-Wilding-Cider-300x200-1.jpg?fit=300%2C200&ssl=1" data-large-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/469-Group-selfie-Wilding-Cider-300x200-1.jpg?fit=300%2C200&ssl=1" /> Group Selfie with Sam Leach of Wilding Cider For repeat travelers like Debbie and Bryce from California, the tour reaffirmed how relationships with makers enrich the experience: “ They treat us like friends, not tourists.” Ancha from Hungary spoke of the joy of hiking the Malvern Hills in the rain and celebrating with fellow cider lovers. Rachel and Mary of Kanga Cider in Texas noted the value of orchard insights for their own plantings back home, while Thomas from Australia praised the tour for covering the full spectrum of producers—from industrial to artisanal. Learning and Inspiration Guests emphasized that tasting ciders in their native terroir cannot be replaced by books or certifications. Dan from Spacetime Mead and Cider Works in Dunmore Pennsylvania highlighted how only by being in Herefordshire or Somerset can one grasp the range of English cider styles. Susan and Tom of Heeman’s Cellars in Ontario pointed out how the pacing of the tour allowed real reflection—something missing from busier farm tours. The Takeaway Whether first-timers or repeat guests, everyone agreed: the Totally Cider Tour offers access, education, and camaraderie that can’t be replicated alone. As David of Oregon said it best, “It wasn’t really about the cider—it was about the people.” Contact info for Totally Cider Tours Website page: https://ciderchat.com/totally-cider-tours/ For details on upcoming cider journeys and to join the waitlist, send an email to [email protected] and write in the heading Totally Cider Tours. Let us know how many are in your party Destinations you would like to visit Mentions in this Cider Chat Episode 469 425: Babycham to Triple Vintage – The Showering’s Cider Legacy 450th Roger Wilkins – The Cider King 444: Worleys and Honey’s: Somerset’s Cider Makers 441: Wilding Cider and the Rural Method | Somerset, UK 454: Wild Ferment Meets Fine Cider: Inside Oliver’s Barrel Room 460: James Forbes on Little Pomona’s Ciders & Legacy 432: Ancha Gergely’s Abaliget Garden Projects | Hungarian Cider Maker

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• 468: Foraging Flavor: Pierrepont Cider | NY

  Cider Maker and Founder Lee Van DeWater of Pierrepont Cider shares his story in this episode on how he is forages apples to share a taste of terroir from New York’s North Country. Lee Van DeWater Foraging Apples for Cider - Sustainable? Lee’s cider journey started with childhood memories of sweet cider and apple trees planted by his great-grandfather. But it wasn’t until he worked in Montana—buying wine for a co-op that he connected cider and apples through fermentation. Western Cider of Montana help Lee get that spark/idea of a cider life, and the seed was planted. Pierrepont cider is a one-man operation, sourcing apples exclusively within the Little River Watershed. Many of the trees Lee uses are wild seedlings, unknown varieties that thrive in New York’s tough climate. He honors the trees, the land, and water, seeing cider as a reciprocal act of love for place. Low-Intervention, High-Expression Lee is self-taught and intentionally minimalist. His ciders are: Wild-fermented Unfiltered Unsulfited Aged in stainless and neutral oak barrels Some of the most memorable ciders come from single trees. Others are blends of just a few wild apples growing together. He tracks everything via GPS and harvests with the patience and perspective of a forager. “The tree that holds its fruit until the first snow, that’s climate-controlled storage,” Lee laughs. Micro Batches, Big Intention What’s available? 2024 Pet-Nat: lemony, spritzy, bright Brighter Later: a single-tree cider still in label design Orbed Road: a terroir-based expression of elevation Maple Sap Ciderkin: rehydrated pomace with local maple sap, sparkling and experimental Each bottle comes with its own story. You might not find hundreds of cases, but you’ll find care, balance, and quiet brilliance. Contact Info for Pierrepont Cider Website: https://www.pierrepontcider.com Mentions in this Cider Chat Vermont & New York Cider Road Trip Series Part 1- 464: Czech Cider: From Roadside Apples to Cellar Ferments Part 2 -465: The Integrated Table: Cider, Food, and Farming at 1000 Stone Farm Part 3 - 466: Growing Cold-Hardy Trees at Saint Lawrence Nursery | NY Part 4 - 467: Canton Apples and Frosty Twig: New York Cider Makers Unite Totally Cider Tour_UK Edition 2025 Sign up for the "early-to-know" wait list for upcoming 2026 Totally Cider Tours CiderCon 2026 - Providence, Rhode Island February 2-5.

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• 467: Canton Apples and Frosty Twig: New York Cider Makers Unite

  How Canton Apples and Frosty Twig Fused Two Brands into One In New York’s “North of Upstate” region, in the town of Canton is the Canton Apples production building. It is now also home of a partnership shaping the local cider scene. Owner Joel Howie and cider maker Dan Gallagher live just a mile apart, and their skills mesh perfectly. Joel brings over a decade of experience growing apples, pressing sweet cider, and creating value-added products. Dan, a passionate fermenter, was ready to move beyond hobby scale when the two connected. Two Brands, One Vision Under Canton Apples & Cider, LLC, two product lines take shape: Canton Apples – approachable, consistent ciders for everyday enjoyment. Joel Howie" data-medium-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/467-Joel-Howie-in-the-Apple-storage-room-at-Canton-Apples-200x300-1.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" data-large-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/467-Joel-Howie-in-the-Apple-storage-room-at-Canton-Apples-200x300-1.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" /> Joel Howie Frosty Twig – small-batch, specialty ciders showcasing unique apples, fruits, and wild fermentation. Dan Gallagher" data-medium-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/467-Dan-Gallagher-on-the-Apple-bins-of-Canton-Apples-200x300-1.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" data-large-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/467-Dan-Gallagher-on-the-Apple-bins-of-Canton-Apples-200x300-1.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" /> Dan Gallagher Production takes place in a purpose-built facility designed for growth, with future plans for a taproom overlooking the orchard. Orchard Practices & Apple Diversity Between their combined orchards, Joel and Dan care for over 250 apple varieties — many planted by Bill McKentley of St. Lawrence Nurseries. These heritage and cold-hardy apples thrive in Zone 4, and every apple grown is put to use. When supplies run short, apples are sourced from other New York regions. Cider Making Approach Ciders range from wild-fermented pet-nats to cultured yeast ferments for consistency. Specialty ciders include Turkey Tree Wild Berry Pear cider Most ciders age 9–10 months before release, allowing flavors to develop naturally. Canton Apples cider and Frosty Twig Cider series" data-medium-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/466-Canton-Apples-cider.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" data-large-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/466-Canton-Apples-cider.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" /> Canton Apples cider and Frosty Twig Cider series Contact info for Canton Apples Website: https://cantonapples.com Mentions in this Cider Chat Totally Cider Tour_UK Edition 2025 Sign up for the “early-to-know” wait list for upcoming 2026 Totally Cider Tours Let us know how many in your party Vermont and New York Cider Road Trip series Part 1- 464: Czech Cider: From Roadside Apples to Cellar Ferments Part 2 –465: The Integrated Table: Cider, Food, and Farming at 1000 Stone Farm Part 3 – 466: Growing Cold-Hardy Trees at Saint Lawrence Nursery | NY

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• 466: Growing Cold-Hardy Trees at Saint Lawrence Nursery | NY

  A Century of Cold-Hardy Trees Saint Lawrence Nursery in Potsdam, NY, has been helping cold-climate growers find success since the 1920s. Originally founded by Fred Ashworth and later expanded by Bill MacKentley, the nursery is now stewarded by Connor and Allyssa Hardiman, the third generation in a nonfamilial succession. What Sets Saint Lawrence Nursery Apart Cold-Hardy Genetics Over 250 apple varieties Trialed at temperatures as low as -34°F Trees that thrive from Alaska to Michigan Only Standard Rootstock Seedling Antonovka (apples) and Baccata (crabs) for resilience and longevity Trees that can live 100+ years More Than Apples Black walnuts, butternuts, hazelnuts, and berry bushes Custom grafting for heirloom preservation Regionally adapted selections from partnerships and testing plots Passing the Torch of Generational Wisdom and Branding The nursery was handed down without a sale. It was gifted by Bill to Connor in a rare act of agricultural generosity. The plan is to do the same one day. “Love is what makes the world go ’round,” Bill often says, and it’s embedded in every tree tag and planting guide. Cold Hardy Trees For Orchardists and Backyard Growers Most customers are small-scale planters or long-time loyalists. Whether you want just one tree to honor a grandparent or 100 cider apples for a startup orchard, Connor and Allyssa are here to help—with personal attention, a rich planting guide, and an option to let them choose the right tree for you. Contact Info for Saint Lawrence Nursery Website: https://www.slngrow.com/ Mentions in this Cider Chat Listen to Bill MacKentley’s speach at New York Apple Camp 2023 391: Test Winters & Climate w/Saint Lawrence Nurseries (NY) Founder Totally Cider Tours Patrick McCauley Episode Feature – 302 Washtenaw County Cider Mille 1841- Today Topsoil Magazine

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• 465: The Integrated Table: Cider, Food, and Farming at 1000 Stone Farm

  From Farm to Glass: Cider at 1000 Stone Farm At 1000 Stone Farm in Brookfield, Vermont, Kyle Doda and Betsy Simpson have built a dynamic model that unites organic farming, community-supported agriculture, small-batch cider. First came the farm and then over ten years, the couple expanded their offerings to include fruit trees, livestock, mushrooms, and now a seasonal restaurant and tasting room: The Farmers Hand Cider House & Kitchen. Besty is the Chef and a graduate of the Culinary Institue of Arts in New York. Besty Simpson and Kyle Doda" data-medium-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/465-besty-and-kyle-200x300-1.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" data-large-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/465-besty-and-kyle-200x300-1.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" /> Besty Simpson and Kyle Doda The Orchard & Philosophy Situated between 1,400–1,700 feet in elevation, the farm grows: Over 60 varieties of apples Plums, peaches, cherries, and Perry Pears Herbs interplanted with vegetables and orchard rows Livestock including lamb, pork, beef, and poultry And there is a dedicate grow space for a mushroom buisness Fruit is fermented on-site with minimal sulfites, both neutral and spirit oak barrels, and some filtered fresh juice for back-sweetening. The cidery prioritizes clean expressions of fruit and soil. Ciders Tasted During this Recording Volume One – Off-dry, barrel-aged, lightly back-sweetened Volume Two – Dry blend with Winesap, Kingston Black, Northern Spy Volume Three – Porter’s Perfection and Ashmead’s Kernel Tomcat – Gin barrel-aged cider, 10% ABV Graf – A farmhouse cider-beer hybrid aged in oak Gathering at The Farmers Hand Open seasonally, The Farmers Hand Cider House & Kitchen features hyperlocal meals built around the farm’s own produce and meats. The space invites locals and visitors to connect over cider, community, and shared tables. There is seating at the bar and also outside on a brand new patio for the 2025 season. Contact Info for 1000 Stone Farm and The Farmers Hand Cider House & Kitchen Website: https://www.1000stonefarm.com Farm Store: Open daily, 8am–8pm (self-serve) The Farmers Hand: Seasonal hours; check website or Instagram for updates June through December Fridays 1-8pm & Saturdays 1-8pm Location: Brookfield, Vermont What is 1000 Stone Farm? What is The Farmers Hand Cider House & Kitchen? Can I visit the farm or tasting room? What kinds of cider are made at the farm? Who makes the food and cider? Mentions in this Cider Chat Totally Cider Tours UK_Edition 2025 Wolfkin Cider, Seattle Cider 375: Cider’s Low Carbon Footprint | Wildbranch Cider, Vermont – Cedar Hannan

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